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Tuesday, January 29, 2013
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I WAS looking through a cupboard for some old documents recently, when I found a First World War medal I'd inherited from my grandma.

It had been presented to her family after one of her brothers was announced to be missing in action, presumed dead.

I'll bet though, that he and the millions of others, who suffered a similar fate, might have preferred to live in a very different kind of Europe – a Europe of countries at peace with each other and where those citizens have the freedom to travel, work and trade in 27 countries – that accounts for 500 million people and 20 per cent of global GDP, with 17 of those countries even sharing the convenience of the same currency. He might also have preferred to live in a Europe where he could go, not to war, but to court, to protect his human rights and fundamental freedoms – freedoms bound by international treaty under the European Convention on Human Rights.

Now I'm not trying to pretend that the EU is perfect. It isn't. But neither is anywhere else. And anyway, it isn't so broke that I'd swap it for the vague muddle of a vision its Europhobe detractors would try to present if they could ever get past the populist mud slinging stage.

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When British business leaders and even the US government express concern about possible UK disengagement with the EU I think you have to question the wisdom of exactly where the Euro-sceptic bandwagon is taking us.

I'd much rather that Britain remaind in the EU, where we can all work through our problems together, as friends and partners, than condemn future generations to the impoverished prospect of an isolated nation squabbling with it's neighbours, struggling to find a place and earn a living in a different and difficult world and with only the glory of earning medals for their young to aspire to.

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    by A_Mushroom

    Tuesday, January 29 2013, 6:32PM

    “I think you are confusing the role of the EU with NATO, who maintain the peace in Europe and beyond, and with the Single European Currency, the Euro.

    Freedom and human rights are a red herring in the argument too; the UK had those long before the EU - and they were the right side of sensible.

    This letter just underlines the confusion that exists around what the EU is, what it does and how it should change. That being the case, membership is far too complex a matter for the public to vote on and it should be left up to our elected politicians to decide on; that's their job.

    A main reason for announcing a referendum is so that the Conservative Party, so divided on Europe, can let us the public make the decision that they themselves cannot make for fear of ripping their party apart.

    That said, I am in favour of our continued membership of the EU but hopefully with a better clarity of what the EU should be doing for its citizens.”

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    by DanielGraham

    Tuesday, January 29 2013, 3:37PM

    “Perhaps you should revisit your history books. World War 1 was manipulated into existence by the dying British empire to destroy the German Classicism strain, which sought to create a Eurasian landbridge development, a rail system going into Eurasia, which was a threat to Britains maritime empire. If you think Britain wasn't a sea-based empire, ask yourself why Britain had or has the Falklands, Gibralta, Singapore, the Suez (Zeus!) canal - they are all choke points for internnational sea trade. Control them and you control world trade. Germanys late 19th century plans had to not only be crushed, but the memory of such a system crushed. Hence WW1. We weren't the 'good guys'. Don't kid yourself. The same empire, based in London, financed through Wall Street banks (Browns Hariman) and the Bank of England (Sir Montague Norman) the rise of Nazism and even trained Nazi finance minister Hjalmar Schact. Hitler was a British project until he went off-script and made alliances with Stalin, going into France instead of Russia. We then has to manipulate US public opinion to join the war, through allowing Japan to attack Pearl Harbour, in order to save the imperial powers in this country.
    In reality, no one in Britain, no member of the commoners/ serfs in Britain, or European countries, want to fight each other. Wars have always been games Kings and rulers play for their own ends. We don't need the EU (owned by the same ruling powers and created by them!) in order to prevent war. Peace is the natural state of politically active decent people, who keep those psychopathic rulers in check by protesting against war.
    You seemed to have missed the real issue on the EU too. The EU has no money. It creates no wealth, no trade, no peace. We, the workers create all of those, and can do so without some political cartel imposing itself inbetween us, as businesses and as individuals.
    Some of you have left the religious brainwashing and institutions and gone straight into the same institutions rebranded as political unions. Both use ancient symbolism in their propaganda, like the Nazis and Soviets used, yet, you being symbloically illiterate, you fall for the same schemes. Youtube 'The Hidden Roots of the EU' and you'll see they're using the same religious motifs and symbols to subconsciously manipulate you.
    Don't be fooled. The individual is the centre of the Universe, and the most important thing we know of. We know of nothing as advanced and complexed as the human brain with the exception of the Universe itself. With that in mind, why have collectivism? Collectivism's (the EU) goal is the eventual elimination of the individual as a social and political UNITY. In essence, the EU is running conter to the evolution of the Universe, given our individualism can be proven to be so primary and important as a creative function/ expression of the Universe. Google Buckminster Fuller - Critical Path.
    Don't be a coward and support a vast political mother-figure. Be an individual who doesn't need political cartels, because you have your own integrity.”

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