“First of all, I'd like to thank you Mrs Gray. You Save my son's life...I think you're a very brave woman to talk to the media. I'm glad, because of your statement people can realize what happened with Shane and Marcio if they had any doubt about it. As a told to the police I'm waiting for justice and I'm couting on them. "La barbarie" still has its place in cotemporary society...Man is man's wolf.”

“Firstly I know not every young person is a thug, a thief or a druggie but I have to ask Am I the only one who can see a correlation between the increase in violent antisocial behaviour and the decrease in authority.
when I grew up if I misbehaved my parents would back the teacher or the police. I was a child and I had no rights As a child you were ruled by the adults in your life.respect was expected as was an acceptable level of behaviour and woe betide you if you stepped out of line because when you were told you would be punished you knew it was going to happen and that it wouldn't be pleasant (and I'm not just talking corporal punishment. There were all sorts of deterrents).
Now the kids are the ones with all the power and they know it. They are savvy enough to know how to use it. Unfortunately most don't have the maturity to learn from their elders and betters.They have not learned any social responsibility or how to become a useful member of society. They have learned however through shameless commercialism that they are entitled to have what they want when they want and to hell with everyone else. and what does the government do? they ban the use of the word 'naughty' in schools. They give out useless Asbo's when they should be making these thugs sorry they were ever born. instead of rewarding hard working children you reward the thugs when they decide to behave. instead of extolling the virtues of working you allow people to languish on benefits. They have no hope because no one expects anything from them. But the main thing is the trend since the free loving 60's for children to have children. The lie was to do whatever felt good and because of this children missed out on learning how to be parents from their own parents. These children had children and were unable to parent effectively because they didn't know how to. And so the cycle goes on and on each generation more detached from parenting skills than the last. so Well done to the loony lefties you have succeeded in screwing up the next generations.”

“We have to stop thinking of single solutions (ie parenting) for these problems. Off the top of my head: we have a significant number of the local population are elderly or vulnerable, there are no reasons (like restaurants) for a reasonable mix of people on Crow Lane at night so the only groups there are there to cause trouble, being bristol the transport is awful and expensive - which makes it hard to encourage kids to go to other activities, community activism is not strong and difficult to engage with if you do not want to go to a church group.
The city and the community needs to ask for help from all available resources to rebuild to community (not just from government groups or funding sources, but also expertise from local universities and from areas that have successfully dealt with this problem.)

On a selfish note, I I hope the dispersal orders previously used are not reinstated as they simply pushed the problems further into the darker roads where people are less likely to get help.”

“Educated, Mandy is proposing that her children's behaviour is determined by nativism rather
than empiricism.
Since only one of her four offspring has had behavioural problems, Mandy asserts that she is not culpable for his behaviour.

She goes on to add that, (in her eyes) an ASBO (a civil order made against a person who has been shown to have engaged in anti-social behaviour) is an ineffective deterrent as many youths and policemen (wow, rough area !) in her locale have them and both parties disregard them until a catastrophic event occurs.

She then requests that we don't hold parents accountable for all events.

Does that make any more sense ?”

“I sincerely hope the two victims are recovering well and this nasty cowardly attack doesn't put them off Bristol! What a dreadful thing to happen to them. I also hope Mrs Gray is ok after witnessing that, it must have been horrible to see.”

“We are reaping the benefits of years of useless parenting and no matter what the police do it won't solve the problem.
Unless parents start parenting this situation will get worse and worse”

“I blame the situation in Henbury today based on failures in the 1990's to address teenage problems in Southmead and Horfield.
Henbury was the nicer area to live and lots of 1990's teenagers headed that way when they started having children. You now have a situation where failed school leavers have had children all growing up together in the same district.
The children can't be helped because their parents think the way they behave is perfectly acceptable and may even encourage them to be a menace to society.
The only people that can help these young adults is themselves. Social services and the police need to set up operation zero tolerance.”

“Until some parents actually start parenting, this sort of appalling behaviour will not stop. If saying 'no' to child upsets them, good, it's called learning. What on earth these youngsters were doing out on the streets like a pack of wild dogs, at 2 in the morning, is beyond me. I have brought up 3 children, never had the police on my door. Even when I have encountered problems, I have stood fast to what I believe to be right and that is the only way kids will learn, even if it means a face-to-face standoff!! I'm sure I've made mistakes, kids don't come with a wash-care label sown in their necks! It's the hardest job in the world, job being the operative, it actually takes effort and sacrifice to bring up a child. The sooner some 'parents' realise that, the sooner we can being up a generation who posess a little respect for other human beings.”

“John: discipline, manners and generally learning to be a good person should be taught at home.
If the kids have show no respect at home, then they wont show any at school.

Educated: I want to be able to tell you to stop being silly, that mandy's post is understandable, but even for me (who usually is ok deciphering posts like this) this is hard to understand!
She has 3 witches I think!

Mandy - sorry, but no matter how much you try to believe it, your kids (unless all born at the same time) will have been brought up differently ;]”

“Perhaps some kind soul will be good enough to translate into English the post from mandy, brentry. I would so much like to read her musings on the subject. Thank you in anticipation.”