We got the hunt ban wrong
Pressure is mounting on the Government to amend the ban on hunting after one of the Act's architects appeared to admit it simply was not working.
Hunt campaigners have seized upon the comments of John McDonnell, a high profile anti-hunt Labour MP, who said of the 2005 Hunting Act: "It took a long time. There was a lot of discussion. We thought we got it right, but we clearly haven't in this instance."
The Countryside Alliance, which is stepping up its campaign for the hugely controversial law to be repealed, compared Mr McDonnell's comments and the stirrings of pressure for an amendment to toughen up the ban to an unsatisfied architect of the pyramids.
"They now want the Act amended," said CA chief executive Simon Hart, "which in parliamentary terms is rather like the Pharaohs viewing the finished pyramids and deciding they would prefer them square."
Mr McDonnell made the comments during an interview on Radio 4. He was instrumental in getting the Hunting Bill through Parliament.
The MP for Hayes and Harlington in Middlesex, who is also chairman of the Socialist Campaign Group of MPs, has not embellished on the bombshell comments since.
The CA claimed last night the anti-hunt movement was split between those who believe greater enforcement is the answer to curtailing the alleged illegal hunting, and those who believe an amendment to strengthen the hunt law itself is required.
After the opening weekend of meets earlier this month, one leading Somerset hunt monitor, Helen Weeks, said so many hunts were routinely breaking the law that an amendment was required.
At present, all prosecutions of hunts, including both 'state' prosecutions led by the Crown Prosecution Service, and the private ones led by the League Against Cruel Sports, have been frozen, pending the outcome of the Tony Wright appeal case.
That three-year-old case – the first ever prosecution of a huntsman – is the subject of a verdict which will set a precedent for the way the law is dealt with in court.
Appeal court judges will have to decide on the thorny issue of intent – is it down to the prosecutors to prove a huntsman intended to break the law, or is it for the huntsman to prove that they weren't?
Until that is decided, no prosecutions can continue, and should that decision go against the CPS and the League, then the future of all West prosecutions – including that against the Devon and Somerset Staghounds – will be thrown into doubt, along with the future of the law itself.
The International Fund for Animal Welfare, which funds many monitors in the West, said more police were needed out in the fields, along with more monitoring. For IFAW, the intimidation and violence against its monitors is a big signal that hunts are still breaking the law.
"Since this cruel sport has been outlawed, IFAW hunt monitors have peacefully filmed hunts and passed on evidence of suspected law-breaking to the police," a spokesman for IFAW said.
"Disturbingly, every year monitors are assaulted and intimidated by hunters and their supporters, who don't want their activities to be filmed.
"IFAW will not be intimidated and our monitors have pledged to continue their difficult jobs, but we have to see more police forces also monitoring hunts," he said, adding that anti-hunt supporters should write to their MPs to demand the law is properly enforced.
But the Countryside Alliance said the growing debate about whether the law itself is working is greater proof a repeal is needed. "Mr McDonnell's comments highlight a widening schism within the anti-hunting movement," claimed Simon Hart, the CA's chief executive.
"The League Against Cruel Sports continues to argue that the Act is clear and enforceable, whilst Mr McDonnell and other organisations are now admitting it is a bad law.
"It is in the interests of animal welfare, the economy, the police, field sportsmen of every kind, Parliament and the wider community to rectify the situation, sooner, not later.
"There is only one answer to the Hunting Act and that is repeal," he added.









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by Giles Bradshaw, Rose Ash
Tuesday, December 02 2008, 6:14PM
“Another quite good quote from the guy at the RSPCA:
"I applaud your integrity for being willing to break the law in that case and not kill the poor creatures"”
by Giles Bradshaw, Rose Ash
Monday, December 01 2008, 9:41PM
“Thank you June. It's an unfortunate fact that the Hunting Act clearly states that I can only flush out deer if I then shoot them. I choose non letah means of control and I am made a criminal for it. How insane is that?
LACS and the RSPCA both support the senseless slaughter of flushed out deer.
Fair enough if I want to kill them but as I choose not to should I not have the right to merely disperse them?
You should take notice of John McDonnell. It is very veryrare for a Labour MP to admit they have made a mistake.
These peoiple are amongst then most ignorant and arrogant in the country.
Good to see you can actually listen unlike the bigots that seek to rule us. x”
by June, Bath
Monday, December 01 2008, 9:23PM
“Giles: I am more than happy to retract my comment about you yelling. If you say you don't, then I believe you. It just seemed a natural reaction when flushing. As to Defra saying that any deer you flush out must be shot - I did not know that and I am horrified by it. I feel I owe you an apology because most probably like so many other people I did not realise this. I am reassured that you do not kill or in any way cause death. As to pineapple poll: I do not think that you can really say that I was anthropomorphising! The deer are just living their lives. It is humans who have decided that they are 'in the wrong place'/breaking the law.”
by Charles Henry, Somerset
Monday, December 01 2008, 8:25PM
“Their is life; but there will always be death.
All any being can ever really hope for, is that their lives are worthwhile,
And their deaths are swift.”
by Will, Southampton
Monday, December 01 2008, 7:36PM
“"Oh its so cruel, its nasty and your all big mean people" Antis constantly bat this rubbish out. There is no more detail, no real experience. As far as I can see most antis just get on the band wagon and say its cruel so ban it and its wrong. But they miss the point. More foxes die in nastier ways with a hunt ban, pure and simple. If you really support animal welfare, you need to support repeal of the hunting ban!”
by Giles Bradshaw, Rose Ash
Monday, December 01 2008, 5:02PM
“This is from a hunt sabatouer of 20 years standing:
"it is better to break the law than to kill the deer."”
by Giles Bradshaw, Rose Ash
Monday, December 01 2008, 4:59PM
“And another quote:
"I agree with you that the law is wrong. It is perceived as an act of mercy I believe to stop the animal from suffering, however, it is a far more disgusting act of cruelty that the one it seeks to rescue the deer from."”
by Colin McNamee, Baltonsborough, Somerset
Monday, December 01 2008, 4:51PM
“pineapple poll. The whole basis of the Hunting Act was/is political right from Labour's manifesto and then Tony Blair's TV appearance with David Dimbleby chairing a 'meet the people' open Q&A session when the last question came from a young man who asked when was Labour going to meet its Manifesto promise. Blair, with the appearance of a rabbit caught in the headlights, shot from the hip and fron then it rolled, steam-rollered in fact. For those who saw Blair that night it was, unfortunately, a 'TV moment.' Catch it if you are able. Priceless. If you think I, or any-one else here 'politicisation of the debate' then you are missing the source. You may despair for British wildlife, I despair for British politics and the apathy of the electorate. There, now I have politicalised the debate - sorry folks !”
by Giles Bradshaw, Rose Ash
Monday, December 01 2008, 4:48PM
“I have just been reading what a guy from the RSPCA has to say about the Hunting Act:
"the law is very wrong I'm afraid. Ending the deer's life is not an act of mercy, it is a far more horrendous act of cruelty. The whole thing stinks if you ask me."”
by jessica jones, bath
Monday, December 01 2008, 1:25PM
“Hunting is not away of life. i have lived in the countryside all my life owened horses chickens cows and i dont go around chasing poor animals for the fun of it.GET A LIFE AND HUNTING IS CRUEL”