More bus cuts in Bristol

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Wednesday, October 01, 2008
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TWO of Bristol’s longest bus routes are set to be cut in two in an attempt to make services more reliable.

Buses from Patchway and Henbury which pass through the city centre to Bedminster, Bishopsworth, Withywood and Whitchurch, have had punctuality and reliability problems.

Bus operator First says this is because the 16-mile route from one side of the city to the other is too long. The services affected are the 75, 75A, 76 and 77.

They would be replaced by a modified 75 and 76 service north of the city and a new 95 and 96 service for south Bristol.

Under the proposed changes, which are subject to public consultation, people who live in a mile-long loop in Patchway – Roadway Road, Durban Road and Bradley Road – would no longer be served by a bus service.

First says the roads are too narrow for buses to run safely and cites incidents of damage involving parked cars.

Homeowners on the stretch of Pen Park Road in Southmead between the junctions with Southmead Road and Greystoke Avenue could also lose out.

And more than a mile of Hartcliffe Way, from the Headley Lane turning to Hengrove Way roundabout, would also lose its service, the 75A, which First says is not well used.

The axed stretches of route are marked in green on the map.

The 77 would merge with the 76, serving Southmead, Henbury and Brentry every 10 minutes.

The company says the Somerfield headquarters in Whitchurch Lane would continue to be served by the new 95 service.

Passengers wanting to cross Bristol would have to change at Broad Quay or another stop in the city centre, with “through tickets” available for both journeys.

The changes follow several other alterations made by First this year in a bid to streamline its network around the city.

It is using a new “real-time” information system to iron out problem areas and is also trying to streamline its route system to cut down on fuel costs.

But the cost to some residents is the immediacy of their bus services. Other streets around the city have also lost out as a result of the cuts.

In May, five routes to the north and east of the city were axed, leaving Cranleigh Court Road in Yate and Westbourne Road in Downend with no bus service.

In August, elderly residents in Leinster Avenue, Knowle, complained that they faced a mile-long walk to catch their bus after changes to the 90 service were announced.

Justin Davies, managing director of First Bristol, Somerset and Avon, said: “We have widely considered these changes to ensure that the needs of our customers are met and the best service possible is provided.“We believe these new proposals will provide a more reliable service for our customers in the longer term.

“However, no decisions have been made and we are keen to listen to and understand the views of our customers.”

Public consultation about these proposals runs until Friday, October 24.

Make any comments at www. firstgroup.com/haveyoursay/bristol or write to First, Have Your Say, Freepost 3782, Bristol BS5 0ZX.

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    by Amanda, Bedminster Down

    Friday, October 03 2008, 9:49PM

    “I think that cutting the 75 route is ridiculous. How about all the young people from this side of town who now attend filton college. Before looking into this for any parent of a 16 year old I'm sure like me they look at how the young person will get there! This seemed great with the bus going right outside. Now first want to take this route away and leave our young people standing on the centre to change buses. Thanks first for the worry you will then be giving to the parents throughout the winter months!!!!!!”

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    by Chris, Bristol

    Thursday, October 02 2008, 12:10PM

    “Good comment Martin Rogers. First are already slashing one of their SHOWCASE routes that we have already invested in. How can they get that so wrong, with OUR MONEY! Let's stop wasting money on buses and invest in TRAINS - people like them and want to use them; not so buses!”

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    by Chris, Bristol

    Thursday, October 02 2008, 12:07PM

    “Interesting point from Martin Rogers - they are axing one of the SHOWCASE routes. These were supposed to be the best First could offer, so if these are being slashed what about the rest. Until fares come down people won't use the buses. Get fares down and passenger numbers and overall revenue will go up. Alternative, fund the local rail services with more investment. People like trains - not buses!”

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    by Russell Copsey, Headley Park

    Thursday, October 02 2008, 6:21AM

    “This seems like a sensible idea. I have never understood why any services run across the city. I would be interested to know what percentage of passengers use the whole route. Who decided run services from Headley Park say to Henbury for example, why not St Annes or Frenchay as an example.
    I have always thought it would be much more efficient to run buses from each district to The city and shopping centres and then back again. If you need to go right across then you change buses. I would think the majority of passengers would benefit from such arrangements.”

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    by anthony neate, southmead

    Thursday, October 02 2008, 4:00AM

    “about time the 76 route was used, i have lived in southmead for 30+ years and had a 10 minute walk to get the bus on pen park road at night like many others.fist have got something right this time”

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    by Carleen, Bristol

    Wednesday, October 01 2008, 9:33PM

    “Is it any wonder that a service that has "reliability and punctuality" issues is then "not well used" as per the comment regarding the 75A? Are they having a laugh? After many an evening being left waiting for a 75A that rarely showed up on time (or at all) we resorted to buying a car. I would gladly go back to public transport should it become more reliable and cost effective...guess the car stays.”

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    by Shelly, Bradley Stoke

    Wednesday, October 01 2008, 8:13PM

    “Well you lot should all be grateful. We are lucky to see a bus in my part of Bradley Stoke. In fact it's been such a long time since one passed this way I've forgotten what they look like (Although I DO remember a single costing me over £3.00 and I Still had to walk over a mile to my house!!)”

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    by Dave, Bristol

    Wednesday, October 01 2008, 8:06PM

    “The people of this city, as a whole, are sadly too reliant on the motor car. This hampers the progress of other means of transport. Sooner or later, this will be realised and a breaking point will be reached where the general consensus is "enough is enough" we demand a decent bus service, decent cycling provisions... Hopefully.”

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    by C, Bristle

    Wednesday, October 01 2008, 6:26PM

    “Having been forced to resort to buses for a week now, I like to know when this city became so dangerous that buses have to travel in pairs. Leapfrogging between bus stops. I have missed one bus caught the next one 15 minutes later only for both buses to reach my destination at the same time. Most sensible countries have buses travel to a central destination and back out, not here, they trek across a busy city having no change of sticking to a timetable.
    Fortunately I can check the arrivals online, so don't have t hang around in the wind and rain.
    Please let me drive again!!!”

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    by Alex, Bristol

    Wednesday, October 01 2008, 5:40PM

    “It is strange having a bus route that runs through the centre and out the other side to southern suburbs... I bet there's very few people who actually make this whole journey....”

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