Which route would you choose for the south Bristol link road?

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The people of south Bristol have until the end of the month to comment on proposals for a link road through their neighbourhoods.

Five options for connecting the A370 Long Ashton bypass to Hengrove Way have been examined in close detail by traffic consultants.

They have given their report to the West of England Partnership (WEP), a combined group made up of the four former Avon area councils, including Bristol and North Somerset.

Various combinations of new roads, roundabouts and high-speed bus links are on the table.

With no firm decisions on which scheme would be best, people are being invited to have their say on the five options until the end of the month.

But campaigners have criticised the proposals, saying they would sacrifice valuable green belt land and make little difference to traffic congestion in the city.

And they are worried about a paragraph in the consultants' report which says there is scope for converting the new road into a dual carriageway in the future.

The proposed route between the A370 and the Hartcliffe roundabout at Hengrove Park forms the first two phases of the WEP's South Bristol Link project.

Eventually, the plan is to complete the new route all the way to the A4 Hick's Gate roundabout, which is where the existing Avon Ring Road ends.

Mike Landen, chairman of the Alliance Against the South Bristol Ring Road, said: "All the reasons why we didn't like the original scheme all those years ago still apply for most of these latest proposals.

"They still go through the green belt and we think it is really important for Bristol that we try to protect that.

"The other problem we have is that these ideas aren't going to stop the real problem with transport in south Bristol, which is how to get from the fringes into the city centre.

"We would like to see money invested in park and rides and better bus services, but on radial routes into the middle of Bristol, not on routes which skirt around the edge of the city.

"All the evidence shows that if you build a road you just get extra traffic – anyone who believes it's going to solve any problems is just deluded."

Consultants Mott MacDonald and Atkins have considered the pros and cons of five different options for linking Hartcliffe to the Long Ashton bypass.

They would all involve starting at the A370, going over or under the railway line and the A38 before crossing Highridge Common and joining the city's road network at King George's Road.

It would then continue east, with three new signalled junctions, before meeting the western end of Hengrove Way.

The type of system to be used, whether it is a road, a rapid transit bus link or a combination of both, is up for discussion in the consultation.

And the route from the A38 to the A370 is also undecided – most of the options pass under the railway line and meet the Long Ashton bypass near the park and ride site, but there is an alternative to hit the A370 south-west of the village of Yanley.

North Somerset Council's transport leader, Elfan Ap Rees, said: "This information shows how difficult it is to make a decision about how to improve links in the area and to prepare for future growth.

"Firstly, there is no one obvious route and secondly, all options have an impact on someone, somewhere. What we do have to keep in mind is that traffic is already heavy in the area and is expected to increase, plus we need to help the area develop and do what we can to attract new jobs for people in the future.

"The West of England Partnership is committed to working together to attract the funding to make this happen."

Jon Rogers, transport leader at Bristol City Council, said: "As new executive member for transport and sustainability on Bristol City Council, I welcome the extra time to comment on these proposals in the light of the Options Appraisal report.

"We all recognise the need for investment in south Bristol and we must consider carefully how best to deliver such investment."

At present it is unlikely that any project could be started before 2013, and this would be subject to planning consent.

ROAD OPTION 1 Construction cost: £14 million This option would be a single-track road, with potential to expand to a dual carriageway in the future. It would run from a new roundabout on the A370 near the Long Ashton park and ride site, across open farmland and under the railway at the existing underpass. It would then rise to another new roundabout on the A38 north of Castle Farm before crossing into the top corner of Highridge Common. It is seen as a good value for money scheme.

ROAD OPTION 2 Construction cost £10.2 million From the A38 into the built-up areas of south Bristol it is the same as option one. But it starts from a different point on the Long Ashton bypass, south-west of the village of Yanley and skirting the Woodspring Golf and Country Club. Value for money is also rated as good for this scheme by the consultants.

RAPID TRANSIT OPTION Construction cost £12.2 million This scheme would see a rapid transit vehicle – probably a guided bus, possibly a tram-train or a light railway – following largely the same route as the first road option. But north of the railway underpass it would follow the city boundary to connect with the existing park and ride site at Long Ashton. Consultants say this scheme is the worst value for money of the five, but it would offer the option of joining the new rapid transit link to Temple Meads.

HYBRID ROAD/RAPID TRANSIT OPTION A Construction cost £21.7 million The first of two hybrid schemes, it is easily the most expensive of the five. The first part of the route would be a combination of the road from option one and the rapid transit line in option three. The road would end at the A38 but the rapid transit would continue on to the Hengrove Roundabout. Buses would be given priority over cars at some junctions, which would mean new traffic lights have to be built.

HYBRID ROAD/RAPID TRANSIT B Construction cost £16.8 million This option would be the same as the other hybrid, but the road would follow the path of the second road-only option, joining the A38 to the A370 south-west of Yanley village. It is given a good rating by the consultants for its value for money but is highlighted as the worst for visual impact on the surrounding countryside.

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    by frank_75

    Tuesday, November 29 2011, 7:32PM

    “Widen Yanley lane down to Highridge, Withywood to Hawksfield Road then onto airport way, pick up wells road, then West town lane and follow the postal boundry line to Hicksgate roundabout and add some flyovers to the many roundabouts that already exist on the bypass as it stands. This could get things moving.”

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    by nikolai rainbow, bristol

    Saturday, April 04 2009, 8:20PM

    “there already seems to be an existing link for the road on the park and ride site , it shoulld then clip the back of ashton vale, up to the A38,and then clip the edge of highridgd common and into a tunnel under dundy hill behind withywoood and whitchurch before going its allocated route around the back of horseworld and stocwood to hicks gate.

    This is the most logical route, and the least impacting on views and green belt, why has this not been proposed? too expensive??? doesn't open the land up enough to build thousands of tiny new homes on floodplains??? i suspect the latter, why, i ask when there are so many run down brownfield sites in bristols built up area already? so many questions, so little facts...”

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    by Claudio, Bristol

    Monday, March 09 2009, 8:47AM

    “From local experience I find that no large new roads built in Bristol work to the advantage of the commuter let alone the whole population. Bristol ditiched it's very best attempt several years ago for the overground. A huge waste of tax payers money, time and effort. It goes without saying that the council have to be seen discussing plans with the city by procedure of application and consultation but the decision would have been made before meeting of minds. This is a complete farse and the council will go with the cheapest option, they alway's do. I am against all options, I'd like to see built a north to south circular road around the city instead of tearing through the middle of it. This would break up historic farmed and green belt land, not to mention the neighbourhoods, communities and businesses that have been well established in these area's. Not happy, not for it, totally against!”

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    by Mark m, Bristol

    Friday, March 06 2009, 3:25PM

    “If I had to choose 1 I would go for road option 2, but personaly I would do something else.

    Build a road from Clevedon at the M5 to the A38 near the airport to help congestion travelling to the airport.

    Then where it cross the main Bristol - Taunton Line build a South Bristol Parkway near the current Nailsea and Backwell station.

    But as for the "ring round around south Bristol I would having going around Whitchurch:

    A: to circle the city
    B: to not go through the middle of communities”

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    by Adam, Bristol

    Friday, March 06 2009, 1:45PM

    “US road better than ours?! I don't think so. I can't speak for the East, but certain US roads on the West coast are generally in terrible condition.”

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    by H, bristol

    Friday, March 06 2009, 1:19PM

    “i like the way they negate to mention here that a lot of houses will be bought under compulsory purchase and demolished in order to make way for these plans. i know this for a fact as i know a few people who have been informed their house would be one of them! i agree with the article that the money should be beter spent combating the actual traffic problems, such as people on the outskirts of bristol making their way into the city centre, and on more park and rides!”

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    by Barry, Bristol

    Friday, March 06 2009, 12:24PM

    “Hank you obviously know nothing about the States,their roads,and bridges put ours to shame.”

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    by William, St George

    Friday, March 06 2009, 12:19PM

    “So six months to install a set of traffic lights is ok then Hank.”

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    by Hank, Henbury

    Friday, March 06 2009, 12:11PM

    “Another thing the Americans do well Ray is to let their bridges collapse rather than spend all that time and money on maintaining them like we do. A few cars may go in the river of course but who cares?”

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    by Harold, Bristol

    Friday, March 06 2009, 11:51AM

    “Lydney Bob,or better still lets copy the French,the Paris Ring Road has no roundabouts,or traffic lights,you enter,and exit via slip roads,you are able to travel non stop on their Ring Road because they had the foresite to build underpasses and flyovers,unlike Bristols Ring Road of course the Paris one is a complete Ring.”

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