Sacked BBC presenter Sam Mason: 'I'm no racist'

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BBC Radio Bristol presenter Sam Mason has spoken of the taxi call row which got her sacked and says: 'I'm no racist'.

Miss Mason has told the Bristol Evening Post she is “devastated” at losing her job and emphatically denies she is a racist.

She said today: “Unfortunately for legal reasons, I cannot comment on the taping of the phone conversation or its content.

“But I am most definitely not a racist.

“My only concern was for my daughter.

“I adore my job and I am absolutely devastated that I have lost it.

“My colleagues were lovely and listeners were fabulous.

“I would sincerely like to thank them for their continued support.”

She then broke down in tears on the phone before she said: “Please believe me, I am not a racist.”

Miss Mason, 40, is at the centre of a storm after being sacked by the BBC for making “completely unacceptable” racist comments.

She phoned for a taxi to take her 14-year-old daughter to her grandparents’ home that was not driven by someone with a turban. Ideally she wanted a woman driver.

An operator at the taxi firm, Streamline Black and White, illegally recorded her conversation and sent it to a national newspaper.

The taxi firm has since said it has sacked the operator.

A BBC spokesman said: "Although Sam Mason's remarks were not made on-air, her comments were completely unacceptable and, for that reason, she has been informed that she will no longer be working for the BBC with immediate effect."

Former BBC Points West presenter Susan Osman, now a BBC News 24 presenter and interfaith minister, said Miss Mason was not a racist.

She said: "Sam Mason and I go back a long way. I have known her ever since HTV days, which is almost 20 years ago, and I have never known her to be a racist.

"She has overcome considerable challenges in her life and this is most unfortunate."

Batook Pandya, director of Bristol-based Support Against Racist Incidents (Sari), said Miss Mason should have known better.

He said: “Britain is a multi-cultural, multi-racial country and we have to live together and people simply cannot come out with statements like she did.

“I’m happy that the BBC has shown a strong stance on this issue.

“I’d almost be ready to understand that occasionally a woman driver might be needed - although that’s sexism - but I cannot understand why someone’s skin colour or what they are wearing on their heads should ever be an issue.”

But Abdul Malik, Lib Dem councillor for Easton, said the issue should not be blown out of proportion.

He said: “As a radio presenter, Sam Mason should have known better.

“However, as an individual she has the right to ask for anything or anyone that she feels would be in the best interests of her daughter.

“We’ve seen how political correctness can sometimes get out of control and there can sometimes be an overreaction. We certainly need to stamp out the pc culture that appears to be ripping the heart out of this country at the moment.

“Having said that, in this case, I think the BBC has done the right thing.”

Miss Mason has previously battled with alcoholism, which led to prosecution before Bristol magistrates for speeding.

She was caught travelling at 65mph in a 50mph limit zone while on her way to Weston-super-Mare’s Broadway Lodge alcoholism treatment centre in 2003.

She received a second six-month ban in October that year for driving while disqualified.

She also received a community rehabilitation order after pleading guilty to driving while disqualified, having no insurance and exceeding the speed limit on the A370.

In one in-depth interview with the Bristol Evening Post, she told of how she turned to drink for a “crutch” to help her cope with life.

After working with a counsellor in alcohol rehab, the presenter was invited back to BBC Radio Bristol to fill a prime afternoon slot on September 29.

At the time she said: “I’m chuffed to bits to be joining BBC Radio Bristol and can’t wait to start having fun with all the lovely listeners.”

The following is a transcript of Sam Mason's conversation with the Bristol taxi company, printed in The Sun newspaper on Tuesday.

A transcript of the conversation records how she ordered a taxi to take her 14-year-old daughter from her Clifton house to her grandparents’ home.

Mason then says: “I know this sounds really racist, but I’m not being . . . please, don’t send anyone like, you know what I mean. An English person would be great, a female would be better.”

Operator: “We would class that as being racist. We can’t penalise the Asian drivers and just send an English one.”

Mason: “You’ve managed it before.”

Operator: “Right, OK. I don’t agree with it personally.”

Mason: “It’s not your 14-year-old girl who’s, you know, is it?”

Operator: “Yes, but that’s racist to say you don’t want an Asian driver.”

Mason: “If it were me I wouldn’t care if it had two heads, but it’s my little girl we are talking about.”

Mason is then handed to a male operator and tells him that his female colleague has “a bad attitude”.

She adds: “I work at the BBC. I’m far from racist and that uneducated woman has no right to call me one.”

She says of her daughter: “I don’t want her to turn up with a guy with a turban on, it’s going to freak her out. She’s not used to Asians.

“She’s not racist – her godparents are black.”

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    by Alex, Bristol

    Sunday, November 16 2008, 3:49PM

    “The phrase hit the nail the on the head springs to mind:

    re: "In good old usa a black man can become president in the UK they are wondering whether he has the right to drive cab " made by Sam in NY....”

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    by Stephen, Gloucestirshire

    Sunday, November 16 2008, 7:23AM

    “I agree John, you have the right idea, there would be more jobs available, our lives would be safer and we would not fear going out in the dark at night like we do at present.”

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    by John, Devon

    Sunday, November 16 2008, 7:13AM

    “Just imagine what would happen if they all went back to their native land, the national health would collapse, a massive amount of council houses would become available to our young families, social security¿s would find they had a great deal more money to share around and there would be far less crime so that the police force could be reduced just to mention a few of the benefits.”

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    by A friend to all, Somerset

    Sunday, November 16 2008, 7:09AM

    “We true British have our fair share of baddies but crime is rampant among the foreign population, in particular, the black community. Drugs have been introduced by them; guns and gang warfare are among the many crimes committed in this day and age.”

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    by Enigma, Bristol

    Sunday, November 16 2008, 6:44AM

    “We true British have our fair share of baddies but crime is rampant among the foreign population, in particular, the black community. Drugs have been introduced by them; guns and gang warfare are among the many crimes committed in this day and age.”

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    by sam, new york

    Saturday, November 15 2008, 2:17PM

    “In good old usa a black man can become president in the UK they are wondering whether he has the right to drive cab”

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    by Dennis, USA

    Friday, November 14 2008, 7:55PM

    “This just proves that most media personalities are truly ignorant; It is a known fact that there are many terrorist organizations whose members do not wear turbans and are women, so her so called fears are totally unfounded. I am a black man and regardless of who her godparents are her comments were racist and she knew it.”

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    by Dean G, Florida

    Friday, November 14 2008, 7:42PM

    “This only proves that most of the media personalities are truly uneducated and rather ignorant; It has been found that there are many terrorists groups out there whose members do not wear turbans so her so called fear is unfounded. She should use her free time to finish school.”

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    by Hatto 888, Bristol

    Friday, November 14 2008, 4:18PM

    “Fluffy Thinker

    Funniest thing I've read in ages. "let's bannish thickism". Step 1 - learn to spell it! You too, Taxi Dave. "Uneducated guess". You ain't kidding.

    Shamik Das

    Bit over the top isn't it? Were there a death penalty for a single racist comment would you press the button? Suspect you are very young and idealistic. Let's hope you never make a mistake in your life.

    Frappez-le-singe

    I take it you are an employment lawyer. For Sam Mason to be fairly dismissed she would need to have had at least three warnings, an oral one, a written one and a final written one. The only exception to that is gross misconduct when none is required. She is not being dismissed for a racist comment: it is more a case of last straws and camels backs. Read her antecedents and what her colleagues say . It's all part of a wider picture. She had a second chance and blew it. Most people would think that punishment enough in the circumstances. Would you like to put her in the stocks, Shamik, and pelt her with rotten fruit in public? Would that satisfy you? Flagellation in front of the nation? Hung, drawn, quartered? Feel better then?

    I have never met Sam Mason and do not know whether she is a racist or not. See what her friend Sherrie Eugene has written about her today. She says: "Sam Mason is certainly not a racist". I would rather believe her friend of 25 years than anybody on here who has never met her and who have their own pitiful agenda.

    Reading about Sam's travails over the years it strikes me that she is not a racist but someone who has bouts of bad judgment (driving whilst disqualified?!). Such an individual is perhaps not best suited working for a publicly funded broadcaster like the BBC, particularly in a live environment, which is why they have suddenly lost all patience with her.

    The person who sold the recording of the call to The Sun is trying to make money out of what he or she believes is racism. Profiting personally out of something you know to be wrong? That's even more immoral to me. Why should this person remain anonymous? Come out and explain yourself!! We'd love to hear from you! I rather suspect you don't have the courage! I hope you do something worthwhile with the grubby money you got from The Sun!

    For the record, the most blatant racism I hear in Britain today is not ill-judged comments in PRIVATE conversations but calls in PUBLIC for the destruction of Israel and the entire Jewish race by fanatical Islamicists. One wonders how they would react to a call to destroy all followers of Islam, given that they can't even cope with a Mickey Mouse cartoon! Want all the toleration of their own religion going but cannot themselves tolerate any other religion! Talk about hypocrisy! And what about holocaust deniers - they are deliberately trying to cause offence, not inadvertently in a private conversation. That's racism taken to a whole new level.

    Sam Mason clearly has personal "issues". As a member of the human race I wish her well in overcoming them. So would any other proper human being.”

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    by Gary, Cornwall

    Friday, November 14 2008, 7:53AM

    “Russell Hammond the question is not protecting anyone it is unaware people who think they have the right malign Sam Mason based on illegally gained evidence handed to the gutter press. We have a judicial system in this country not trial by chat room. Secondly the BBC seem to think it appropriate to act above the law whilst defending people Jonathon Ross whose crime was significantly worse than anything Sam Mason has done.

    I am in no doubt anyone claiming ¿Sam Mason is without doubt is a racist¿ are the problem in this country. I would never defend a racist but I would never be quick to impose such a harsh sentence on a public figure, if the police say no crime has been committed then that is that. What many here want is anarchy and trial by witch hunt. If people here think Sam is a racist why are they not demanding the police lock her up?”

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