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Potted plants are a fire risk says council

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Monday, June 11, 2012
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THE council's health and safety officials are at it again – this time colourful potted plants have been deemed a fire risk.

Bristol City Council has told some of its tenants that flowers in tower block corridors and balconies could be a hazard.

  1. Audrey Stazakar of Brandon House on Jacobs Wells Road who has been told by the council not to keep flower pots on the walkway outside her front door

    Audrey Stazaker of Brandon House on Jacobs Wells Road who has been told by the council not to keep flower pots on the walkway outside her front door

They've also warned that essential mobility aids being kept outside council flats could be banned because of fire safety regulations.

People who refuse to clear landings outside their flats could end up in court, residents have been warned.

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It comes after council workers made residents get rid of doormats, framed pictures on the walls and banned some residents from keeping mobility scooters outside their own homes, all in the name of its new clear corridors policy.

The council says anything which could become an obstacle in the event of a fire has to be removed.

Now the new rules are being rolled out across the city, and this time it's residents' flowers that are in the firing line.

The new policy means that residents may no longer be able to decorate their doorways with flowers or keep mobility scooters and walking frames within convenient reach.

Council teams are going out and about to check properties.

But residents have spoken out against the new rules following letters and briefings at council properties.

At one meeting in St Peter's House, Jacob's Wells Road, residents of two council blocks say they were told that their flowers, some of which have been there for over 30 years, are now a threat and must be removed.

Tenants told the Post that an auditor – who is not a qualified risk assessor – will be visiting all community spaces and leaving stickers on "trip hazards".

Residents will then have 24 hours to remove the items, although there will be some flexibility.

If items are not removed, they could be taken away by the council, which would take "tenancy action" – with residents likely to end up in court.

Audrey Stazaker, 81, who has kept her flowers outside her front door for 30 years at St Peter's House, was told by a council official at the meeting that her plant pots could be targeted in the health and safety sweep.

Ms Stazaker told the Post: "We just want to add a little bit of colour to the place we live in. I've been living here for 30 years now and I've kept plants outside my home for as long as I can remember."

She added: "I can understand the rules but you would think we have got a whole garden out there."

Ms Stazaker's son, Paul Turner, wants the council to take a common- sense approach and allow plants which are in the building's natural recesses to be left alone.

He said: "These pots don't stick out any further than the building pillars at intervals all the way along the balcony. If the plants are a fire risk, then surely the pillars are as well.

"Bristol City Council seems to have a 'one size fits all' answer. I'm sure there must be a middle ground somewhere."

He added: "Getting rid of all the colour of the flowers makes a place like this such a sterile environment to live in."

In another council block on Creswick Road, Knowle, residents have also received a letter from the council warning them about the changes.

The letter, addressed to residents of Home Mead, invited tenants to a meeting regarding "phase three" of the new programme of regulations.

Margaret Green, 63, a tenant of Home Mead, told the Post that she had been informed her mobility scooter must be moved from the downstairs passageway, leaving her with the possibility of losing her only means of getting around.

She said: "It's terrible what they are doing. They are not thinking about the people involved.

"It's bad enough having a disability and not being able to get about in the first place."

She added: "With the amount of recesses we have in the building there's always a place to put it without it being in the way.

Ms Green said that her neighbour, Edna Davis, 90, has been asked to remove her walking frame from where she keeps it under the stairs.

Ms Green said: "If they make her take it away, she will have to put it in her flat where it will be a real hazard for an elderly lady trying to get around a small area."

In a letter to residents, seen by the Post, Bristol City Council said that the clear corridors campaign was the result of "Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) order 2005".

Pete Wood, a council spokesman, said: "As has previously been reported, the city council is implementing a clear corridors policy in all our residential blocks across the city.

"The reason for this is simple – the safety of our residents in the event of fire.

"We are talking to residents on a block-by-block basis to explain why we are introducing this policy, in line with national guidelines, and we will look at any individual issues and, where possible, try to find a solution.

"However, the safety of residents for which we are responsible has to come first and that is why corridors have to be kept clear."

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  • Profile image for Morrissey9

    by Morrissey9

    Tuesday, June 12 2012, 5:53PM

    “Sorry, but it people block communal passageways and corridors in council owned properties then they may get asked to move these items. Rather than go on a whine about it, why not work out a compromise - find an area which won't hamper people's escape in a fire and make that somewhere plants can be put? It is all very well whinging to the papers, but if people die in a fire after tripping over several large plant pots and they found out the council knew it was a risk and did nothing, there would rightly be an outcry. They could always find private accomodation also!”

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    by Pyronaught

    Tuesday, June 12 2012, 4:18PM

    “I think the interesting contrast here is the NEW policy being put in place by the council as opposed to the plants that have been in situ (and presumeably have not been tripped over in that time - nor spontaneously combusted) for some 30 years. The proposed policy is nonsense and utterly unneccessary - but it keeps some sanctimonious jobsworth in work. Perhaps the corridors, hallways and landings would be safer if they weren't cluttered up with idiots making daft rules.”

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    by Commenter42

    Tuesday, June 12 2012, 3:52PM

    “rocksmum - Just because the Council own the place you rent doesn't mean that you have to wait for everything to be provided to you for nothing. The residents with bikes should all chip in to cover the cost and installation of a bike shed. Why should the majority of Council tax payers who do not get subsidised housing off of the Council foot the bill for extras like bike sheds?

    You may think that people would make sure they don't have potentially dangerous things hanging around outside their flats, wouldn't you? However, if the option of cluttering escape routes is left open, people will take advantage. The Council are doing the right thing by insisting on totally clear exit routes.”

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    by rocksmum

    Tuesday, June 12 2012, 2:28PM

    “to lolly60 and commenter42: It would be wonderful if we were allowed to have a bike shed of our own, but since the yard/garden is communal we cannot just install a private shed on it. It has to be a dedicated bike shed installed by the council for its tenants and it has to be just so and just there, all the i's dotted and t's crossed.

    Going back to the potted plants issue- there has to be some common sense involved in it all, on all sides. Nobody would want to be at risk, once this issue has been raised I'm sure everybody would make sure they don't have potentially dangerous things hanging around outside their flats. We must be allowed to use our common sense and stop being treated like children or half-wits!”

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    by MOOSEMOO

    Monday, June 11 2012, 11:22PM

    “just as well there is no bill and ben the fllower pot men they will get banded to”

  • Profile image for johnbristol3

    by johnbristol3

    Monday, June 11 2012, 9:19PM

    “Surely the real issue is that people who need disability scooters and walking frames should not be housed in flats,”

  • Profile image for A_Mushroom

    by A_Mushroom

    Monday, June 11 2012, 9:12PM

    “If we didn't want rules we might as well let the French take over.”

  • Profile image for robyjohnjones

    by robyjohnjones

    Monday, June 11 2012, 7:22PM

    “It hurts when I have to agree with the BCC. This issue need not keep coming up.Take your pots,bikes, mobility scooters, welcome mats and any other bric-a-brac junk and shove it in your home with the rest of your pound shop rubbish, then nobody else will have to look at it or fall over it.”

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    by lolly60

    Monday, June 11 2012, 5:27PM

    “@rocksmum
    Why dont you all then chip in and buy a shed for storing all your bikes and MB Scotters and only you would have the key.Whats wrong with that !!!”

  • Profile image for Commenter42

    by Commenter42

    Monday, June 11 2012, 2:00PM

    “Why don't you buy a shed to lock your bike in?”

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