Police winning fight against vandals in Mangotsfield

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Residents in Mangotsfield say problems with vandalism in the area have improved but more needs to be done.

It follows calls from Julie Lake for better policing in the area after she was convicted of assault and criminal damage when she confronted youths she believed had vandalised a war memorial opposite St James Place.

Many residents and business owners in the area wanted to talk to the Bristol Evening Post about the problems but did not want to be named for fear of reprisals.

A resident who lives near the war memorial, but did not want to identify himself, said: "There was a problem with vandalism. Kids would regularly ride through the flowerbeds on their bikes.

"Sometimes there would be 30 youths gathered in the area throwing their litter from the takeaway on the floor, using the memorial as a toilet and leaving their bikes in the pathway blocking people walking through. I've been sworn and shouted at plenty of times.

"Once my wife leaned out the window at night because she heard noise. She didn't say anything to them but when she went back inside one of them ripped up flowers and soil from the ground and posted it through the letter box.

"We've called the police but sometimes they take a long time to come. And, of course, people don't feel that they can say anything to the youngsters because they can see where you live.

"One woman from the street moved out because they were causing her so much trouble. Since the case with Julie Lake it hasn't been too bad and there's hardly anyone hanging around there."

One business owner said: "There is an entrance at the back of my shop and kids are always hanging around and throwing stones. I have spoken to the police about it but what can they do? They can't patrol the place 24 hours a day. They should go into the schools and talk to the kids and that might make them think twice about it."

Another man who lives near the memorial said: "There was a problem year after year with youths gathering until late at night, being noisy and for some people it was intimidating.

"There has been no problem at all in the last six months. You still get a few children sat on the benches but it's nothing compared to what it was. I sympathise with the police because they just haven't got the resources and they can't be in two places at once."

Sophie Holbrook, who owns Rosina May Flowers opposite the memorial, said: "There are children around that area but there are never normally any problems. The police have come to break them up before when there have been too many.

"They are a bit noisy but that's it really. I've never had any problems with them."

In an interview with the Evening Post acting Chief Inspector of the district, Simon Ellis, said: "We acknowledge there's a problem in the area and we're reacting in a proportionate manner. What we've to date is a street briefing where officers go into the area and promote it beforehand to give local people a chance to come out and talk to local officers about the issues affecting them.

"In October 2007 we drafted a problem profile and developed a report that will involve more long-term solutions such as higher visibility patrols of the area and sending officers into schools to talk to children.

"If there are a lot of people that are concerned or have issues we'd encourage them to get in contact with us and bring them to our attention because unless these issues are reported then it's not easy for us to identify a problem."

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    by Sam, Dorset

    Tuesday, August 12 2008, 4:06PM

    “Acting Cheif Inspector "Simon Ellis" says, "he acknowledges there is a problem in the area".
    Now, after the arrest of a member of the public who simply got sick to death of these youths controlling these streets, he says "we developed a report that will involve more long term solutions."
    As it is well reported that the war memorial has suffered vandalism & intimidation to residents for 8 to 10 years, why now are the police upping the anti??
    He also says that unless these issues are reported, then it's not easy for us to identify a problem. Well, i would class 8 to 10 years of vandalism, large groups gathering, drinking late at night causing damage, mess & a noise nuisence--- a real problem.
    Why now after the Julie Lake case, are we seeing a sudden flurry of police activity when there was none before.
    As one resident quite rightly said, "You call the police but they take such a long time to come".
    It sounds to me a case of, horse, stable door, bolted.
    Or should that be embarressment that the only person prosecuted in the 8- 10 years, is the woman who got so sick of it??
    If so, it is all a little too late.
    The residents & the shopkeepers know the truth as to how long they have suffered with this.
    If the police are stepping up patrols etc, will we start to see some prosecutions, other than Julie Lake??
    I am all in favour of these new proposals to protect the area by the police but in the aftermath of the Julie Lake case, will the police activity grind to a halt when we have all forgotton who Julie Lake is.
    Only time will twll eh??”

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    by Martin, Storrington, West Sussex

    Tuesday, August 12 2008, 2:01PM

    “As a member of Julie Lake's family, i sat through the four day trial.
    I found it very sad that on day one of the trial, all of the youths arrived to give evidence in a gang without one parent in sight of the lot of them, bar one lad.
    Say's alot really, doesn't it??”

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    by julie lake, Mangotsfield

    Tuesday, August 12 2008, 1:23PM

    “Sadly, as most people know, the vandals & anti social behaviour along with the feral kids who have no regard for anything or any-one else, don't just go away. They just move on elsewhere. Watch out, they could be in a town near you very shortly.
    Julie”

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    by Pete, Mangotsfield

    Tuesday, August 12 2008, 9:37AM

    “Police resources are stretched and this type of crime is a low priority. However, the advice I have been given is to report these incidents to Portishead and obtain a crime or log number. When reporting subsequent incidents, just quote the number and it will be logged along with all the others. You do not have to be visited by the police and all your details remain confidential. Eventually it will be flagged up as a problem that needs to be dealt with and the police will formulate a plan of action. Please do not be afraid of reporting these incidents, however trivial you may think they are.
    Our rights to live our lives in peace and to protect our property and families are just as important as the rights of these ferral, brain defficient yobs who have had no training in social skills or respect.
    A child needs training just as much as a new puppy does.
    A dog is happiest when it knows its position in the "pack", whether that be the leader or the last. It then becomes mentally balanced and well behaved.
    What sort of parent allows their chid to roam the streets until gone midnight, drugged and drunk. It's a disgracefull reflection of the "could'nt care less " attitude adopted by some parents.”

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    by Tash, Bristol

    Monday, August 11 2008, 4:17PM

    “If vandalism has improved, does that mean they are getting better at it?”

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