Park and ride to be considered for Whitchurch

“"the last comment by Stockwoodpete is just plain silly, normally his comments are sensible"

I'll take that as a compliment.... I think!

I'm not sure which part of the comment you're talking about. If it's about the lower cost and higher speed of the bus, I accept that in quidsworth's case (sharing a car) the up-front cost may be less for a car – though even then, other factors like parking charges and externalised costs like pollution, might well keep buses cheaper. But most cars on the Wells Road in peak hour aren't being shared anyway. The bus will be faster for two reasons; first, the engineering that gives it priority, and second, because it reduces congestion by attracting passengers from cars.

As for bikes, I'm just saying that for anyone capable of it, it's worth considering. Many people do prefer bikes on this reasonably flat route. If only Cycling City had got round to completing the Brislington stretch beneath Bath Road, it would be better still!

I'd agree that P&R isn't a cure; it's a sticking plaster to relieve the crazy system by which so many people choose to live a long way from the workplace, then demand a clear run when they all want to use the same route at the same time.”

“@quidsworth + PE175:-

Or a Park and Ride on a relaid train route or dedicated bus rout on the old track bed suitably 'diverted to miss all the gardens and fouses that were 'allowed' to encroach on it !

I agree another P+R that relies on buses using the same space as existing road traffic is pointless. As it has been said many times these ideas are useless unless a proper cohesive overall Plan for Bristol and its neighbours is created first - then get political commitment and money (mabe loads of it) to implement that Plan for the whole area.”

“@quidsworth

Dead right no point in destroying another green field unless it actually does something.
Jumping out of your car and joining the same traffic jam in a bus is a pointless exercise, so it will be not a Park and Ride it will be a park and ride plus a bus lane, but you cannot put a bus lane over the Saltwell bridge without enormous cost or on the road through the village, the bus lane would probably start at the Wharncliffe Gardens junction and mess up that part of the Wells road.
There are traffic jams not only going into Whitchurch but also coming out from Bristol all caused by the Staunton Lane lights, why not put a roundabout at that junction with a filter left into Staunton Lane that would just mean loosing a bit of the pub car park.
A roundabout idea maybe good maybe bad but any idea is better than a P&R and more buses.
This constant fixation with buses and bikes is now getting paranoid.

And the last comment by Stockwoodpete is just plain silly, normally his comments are sensible,
how is it quicker to go by bus in the same traffic jam you have just got out of unless you compromise everyone else on the road to give your bus priority, the whole idea of a P&R is a waste of time unless you make the traffic worse for everyone else except the buses.
How about improving the route for everyone, that would remove the need for more jam causing buses and the need for a P&R.
And as for Stockwoodpete`s comment about using a bike, grow up man, you stick on your pushbike, and everone else will get on with getting to work and home again on whatever transport they wish to use, getting forced onto bikes and buses by the jamming up of Bristol by the Council has to be reversed, the jam in Whitchurch is caused by the jam in Bristol, if you unjam Bristol you will unjam the surounds of Bristol.
20 mph speed limits/sticky out bus stops/blocked of roads/reduced parking/throttling of roads for no reason/road restriction caused by bus lanes/unrequired traffic lights/restricting the angle of corners that even buses cant negotiate/pointless traffic calming, it goes on and on, if you could get through Bristol then the requirement to even think about another P&R would not exist.”

“A bus? A bike? Why should I? I pay good money to use my car and I'm one of three passengers in my vehicle. And this park and ride let them build it in your back garden.”

“quidsworth:

2.3miles in 45 minutes.... thats 3.1mph. A bus would be cheaper and quicker. Or, better still, think about using a bike?”

“Great! A nice big fat juicy bus lane all down the wells road, from the village all the way into town!! My now 2.3 mile journey which takes 45 minut and 132 lights could not get any better. Looks like my journey time will get just a little bit longer or I can re moragage and buy a bus pass!”

“From Mendip:

Sorry if I wasn't clear... I was just questioning the councillor's assertion that
"It would also help residents of villages to the south of the district, who could get a bus to Whitchurch and then use the park and ride for the remainder of the journey into Bristol".

As you say, they aren't too many buses from the off-A37 villages like Chew Magna! Perhaps he's just wanting it to sound more 'sustainable'?

Suggesting a site is inviting trouble - but Magrathea2011's suggestion would certainly be the front-runner. I dare say Horse World would see the release of land it as a possible trade off for their own development plans, too.... but that's pure conjecture, of course”

“@FromMendip,

how about the land between the Rugby Club alongside the A337 (opposite Queen Charlotte Lane junction - roundabout there ?”

“When can we have a Park and Ride from Bristol to Bath??”

“Is there any doubt such a scheme is needed - it is a no brainer IMO!

I would have hoped that they should have been more ambitious and sought to re lay the railway as far south as the bridge ober the A37 (or as near to it as possible now there are houses on the original line of the track).

Now all we want is for all the other major roads into Bristol from South Gloucestershire to do the same (preferably server by railway - relaid if necessary) to form a ring around the City.”