Opponents put case against bendy bus plan

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Thursday, June 14, 2012
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OBJECTORS have opened their case against plans to create a £50 million bendy bus route from Bristol city centre to Ashton Vale at a public inquiry.

After hearing evidence in support of the public transport system from backers Bristol and North Somerset councils for nine days, opponents yesterday got a chance to have their say.

  1. An artist's impression of the  Prince Street Bridge plan

    An artist's impression of the Prince Street Bridge plan

Opponents explained to a planning inspector that the proposed route would harm the historic city docks, the harbour railway and Prince Street Bridge.

They told the hearing at Armada House, off Baldwin Street, that the bus route would wreck the appearance of the Floating Harbour, increase air pollution, erode the charm of the harbour railway and cost more than anticipated.

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The inquiry was told that Bristol Civic Society had suggested an alternative route for the buses, which involved vehicles travelling along Cumberland Road and Wapping Road rather than alongside the city docks in front of the M shed museum.

Maggie Shapland, from Bristol Industrial Archeological Society, said the two councils were "in fervent pursuit" of a scheme which did not serve a main area of the city.

She said that a bottleneck would form on Prince Street Bridge because there could be as many as one bus per minute running over the listed structure, and vehicles could be held up for up to 30 minutes a time when bridge swings were taking place.

Ms Shapland said the bridge was suitable for use by light traffic and pedestrians but not heavy traffic.

She accused the two councils of proposing to plough the bulk of the cash allocated for the scheme into a part of the route which would prove to result in the slowest travelling speeds, in reference to the section running through the harbour.

Referring to projected passenger numbers provided by the councils, she said only three of the proposed 10 stops along the route would be heavily used.

David Martin, representing Bristol Harbour Railway, said he was concerned engineering costs would overrun as they had on public transport projects in Edinburgh and Cambridge.

Mr Martin said the railway would lose its charm and its "clickety-click" noise if it were replaced by a modern rail line to accommodate the bus route.

James Smith, of the civic society, said the council's conservation specialists had not properly taken into account how the city docks would look if buses were running through them.

He said the conservation report had only considered the building work which needed to be carried out to create the route.

Mr Smith said: "It does not take account of the vehicles running on it. It's like approving the M1 and saying it will be fine without any cars running on it."

Stephen Wickham, also of the civic society, said he objected to plans to demolish Jubilee House to make way for the route. He said: "The front facade is of some merit. It's part of the maritime heritage in its original purpose."

The public inquiry will decide the fate of the Government-backed Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system, which would see buses running on a guided route both on and off road from 2015. It is not clear whether bendy buses, double deckers, or other vehicles will be used.

The inquiry, which is being heard because objections were made against the plans, started last month and is set to last six weeks.

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  • Profile image for nogbutt

    by nogbutt

    Sunday, June 17 2012, 3:54PM

    “this is obviously an open space, but i 2nd roly's comment. trolling, if done extremely wittily, can be slightly amusing, but this is on a par with charlespk or even that guy that rants furiously about bicycles and horses.

    on topic- can someone clear up questions i have about this story? what happens about budget over-runs? and what happens if the service is unpopular and runs at a loss? are we liable for the losses of operators on the network?”

  • Profile image for KBillies

    by KBillies

    Sunday, June 17 2012, 3:11PM

    “Tell you what.

    Lets all sort it out over a large skinny lattee.

    Question is, who's paying?”

  • Profile image for THEIRONS

    by THEIRONS

    Sunday, June 17 2012, 1:24PM

    “KBILLIES-What is Tim Kent policy regarding the Stadium at Ashton Vale is he for the development, or is he pro TVG.As i am sure that the residents of Whitchurch Park (or Hartcliffe as it use to be called) would be interested to know.”

  • Profile image for roly12345

    by roly12345

    Sunday, June 17 2012, 1:02PM

    “KBillies, this is becoming so tedious.
    Your posts are on a par with spam and I think the Bristol public are too savvy for that level of publicity.
    My vote will be based on the actions of the candidates over as long a period as I can see, not just on their recent evangelical conversion to likeable, humanist and baby kissing, puppy petter.

    Obviously the people who helped destroy several arterial routes into Bristol, whilst preserving their own will not do well.
    Those who pushed to sell off the parks and recreational spaces in Bristol to meet short term goals, will get rebuffed as did their plans.
    Those that support a rail solution will collect the kudos First bus supporters have been loosing at a prolific rate.
    All in all, the people of Bristol will not be swayed by toadying rhetoric, so give it a break will you.”

  • Profile image for KBillies

    by KBillies

    Sunday, June 17 2012, 12:07PM

    “Give credit to DM Fishponds , he rises to the bait big time.”

  • Profile image for DM_Fishponds

    by DM_Fishponds

    Sunday, June 17 2012, 8:47AM

    “@KBillies - "Elected representative or angry online troll?"


    KBillies, That's easy; you're an angry online troll!”

  • Profile image for KBillies

    by KBillies

    Saturday, June 16 2012, 9:45PM

    “Elected representative or angry online troll?

    It's hardly multiple choice”

  • Profile image for KBillies

    by KBillies

    Saturday, June 16 2012, 9:26PM

    “Unless I am mistaken Ed Bramall was not elected in 2010.”

  • Profile image for DM_Fishponds

    by DM_Fishponds

    Saturday, June 16 2012, 9:21PM

    “In 2006 Tim Kent won his seat in Whitchurch Park with a majority of 177 votes (45.65%). In 2010 that majority had fallen to 59 votes (39.38%).

    In the local election last year (2011) Labour won the other seat in Whitchurch Park by 784 votes receiving more than double the votes of the Liberal candidate!

    If Cllr Kent bothers to stand again, what majority do you think he will loose by based on the trends above?

    I actually credit the people of Whitchurch with more intelligence than Kbillies does.

    I support those that provide truth, honesty and service to the public, which is why Kbillies and I always disagree!”

  • Profile image for Tody123

    by Tody123

    Saturday, June 16 2012, 9:11PM

    “Tim Kent is a busted flush”

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