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Olympic torch to be sold at auction house after eBay 'hoax'

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Monday, May 28, 2012
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AN Olympic torchbearer who was faced with a £15,000 bill after trying to sell her piece of history has revealed that she may put it up for resale through an auction house.

Sarah Milner Simonds, 38, from Burnham-on-Sea, sold the torch on online auction site eBay last Sunday, the night before she carried it on her leg of the 8,000-mile relay event.

  1. Sarah Milner Simonds with her torch

    Sarah Milner Simonds with her torch

The winning bidder offered £153,100 – and despite being a legitimate account – failed to come forward.

Under eBay rules Ms Milner Simonds had to wait four days for the buyer to get in touch – but his time was up late on Thursday night.

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The sale must now be referred to the site's "Resolution Centre", to allow eBay to try to contact the bidder.

Until the auction site has looked into the matter, Ms Milner Simonds is not allowed to relist the torch for sale.

But she told the Post that she has had interest from several auction houses which have offered to sell the torch for her.

"This whole business with eBay has left me absolutely devastated," she said.

"When I listed the torch for sale I received lots of rude and hateful messages from people who were opposed to me selling it.

"That's led me to believe that the winning offer of £153,100 was just a hoax.

"I've already been asked to pay the £15,000 selling fee due to eBay, and am not sure what's going to happen with that.

"My partner and I are now in the process of contacting people thought to have offered genuine bids, but it is a long and tedious process.

"Several auction houses have contacted me to say they could sell the torch on my behalf, so I'm considering that as well."

Ms Milner Simonds planned to use the money from the torch sale to secure the future of People's Plot, a community gardening project she volunteers at.

Her work at the community allotment in London – where people can grow their own fruit and veg, and cook and eat the food they grow together – was the original reason she was nominated to carry the torch.

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  • Profile image for yand12

    by yand12

    Tuesday, May 29 2012, 7:11AM

    “@ SimpleStan

    The "kernel" is actually "colonel".

    You find a kernel in a nut.”

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    by Bristol1978

    Monday, May 28 2012, 6:44PM

    “@Fishpondsman

    You'll notice i didn't actually mention money she "almost" got or that i "hoped she wouldn't have to pay capital gains". If you're going to reference my posts please do so correctly.

    My point was that if she sells it for more than £12,360 she will end up having to pay some CGT on it even if it is a charitable donation.
    http://tinyurl.com/7ay7vux

    You can try to justify calling her greedy by making the 10% comment as many times as you like, but the fact is you have no evidence to back up your claim and rambling on about how a website works doesn't qualify as proof.”

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    by FishpondsMan

    Monday, May 28 2012, 4:57PM

    “Re: by Bristol1978

    Tax return as you mentioned you hoped she wouldn't have to pay capital gains. When you complete a tax return there is a box for charity donations, can't remember what the limit is but you get tax relief on charitable donations. But as with everything else if you haven't actually received the money no tax to pay. When I complete my tax return I don't mention income that 'almost' came in or income that might be coming in the next financial year.

    On the original live listing (before it was purchased and completed) the 10% donation was highlighted. When you produce an eBay listing you have the option of highlighting the charity box. That charity box then comes out on the eBay listing as a little symbol (like a flower type thing). When the listing was live that charity symbol was on the listing. When an eBay listing ends certain information is no longer displayed on the 'listing ended' page.

    I don't really care one way or the other, more a comment on a complete non-story the journalist or the person in the story had clearly put zero thought into any of it and how easy it is to get in the paper. I personally would have been rather embarrassed, what's next I replied to the Prince in Bahrain and haven't received my $1.8m yet.

    I'm also stuck at my desk today and it gives me a break every now and again.”

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    by SimpleStan

    Monday, May 28 2012, 4:48PM

    “I once received a letter from a kernel in the Nigerian army who had £29,432,850 sitting in a bank account that had been forgotten. The government were going to knock down a supermarket and build a big war memorial so they put the money in the bank but then the whole thing was cancelled. He was going to transfer it to my account with Nat West and then we were going to split it fifty fifty. I was planning to use my share to help Rovers build a new ground and ask them to name a stand after me. But my reply must have got lost in the post because I never heard from the kernel again though I did change addresses after my house got repossessed.”

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    by joning

    Monday, May 28 2012, 4:22PM

    “Who cares whether she was trying to sell it or not, the proceeds are to be for a good cause. However, is she broken or something? Over £150k bid and she never once thought, 'hmmm, I might be getting shafted here'. Cretin.”

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    by Bristol1978

    Monday, May 28 2012, 4:21PM

    “@FishpondsMan

    Funny that, every other news source has reported that she was selling the torch (a torch she apparently would have had to buy herself first) to raise funds for the community project that won her a place in the relay, even the projects website says that is why she is selling the torch and yet you are the solitary person that has apparently seen her claims to be donating only 10% of the proceeds, a claim which can't be verified with any evidence.

    As for knowing what a tax return is, yes i do, whats your point? Or are you trying to deflect from your failed earlier point in which case i apologize for drawing attention to it again.”

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    by bristol_guy

    Monday, May 28 2012, 3:38PM

    “I don't understand why people care if these people are selling it. It's up the them, remember the Olympics are brought to you by Mcdonalds and Coca Cola! So it seems very much in the spirit of current IOC. Oh and LOCOG plan to sell the remaining ones anyway to recoup the money from people who chose not to buy them.”

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    by FishpondsMan

    Monday, May 28 2012, 3:32PM

    “Re: by Bristol1978
    "just hope it doesn't sell for too much and she ends up being stung for capital gains tax"

    Do you know what a tax return is?”

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    by FishpondsMan

    Monday, May 28 2012, 3:31PM

    “Re: by Bristol1978

    Just checked the listing the 10% to charity option is removed when the item is sold (the 10% charity option is set up by eBay for you add to your listings, hence doesn't show when the item has been sold)

    Funnily enough no mention of giving 100% to charity in the custom description, my guess is once she had whined to the BEP she had better say it was for charity.

    If you were listing an item that you planned to give 100% of the sale to charity, would you mention it?”

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    by vrtsl36l

    Monday, May 28 2012, 3:17PM

    “You never get the best price in a fire sale.”

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