'All NHS staff in fear of pay cuts'

“@Jonnyfandango
Like your sence of humour Little boy”

“@ lolly60 - Ahh you were a cleaner!”

“@Brennus
yes i have worked in both areas thank you very much ,one was in a local school and the other with special needs children in a unit and disabled adults ,not that i have to answer to you or anyone else .”

“@lolly60

So you left because the money was not good enough OR some other reason? You also didn't mention how long you were doing the job for either, when you did the job, whether you were a trained nurse etc.

I've got my HGV 1 (old money talk) but that doesn't make me a lorry driver, give me any insight into what the job is like now etc. You could just be bitter that they get paid more money now, I don't know because what you've said is vague.”

“Says it all, doesn't it? Multi-million bonuses for useless bankers, and pay cuts for NHS professionals.

We expect that from the Tories, but the Lie Dems seem to be happily going along with them...”

“Yes, that's right Lolly.

Of course you've been both a teacher and a nurse. Of course.

You do come out with some rubbish on these pages, but this one takes the biscuit. I'll bet that if this debate had been about nuclear physicists and air hostesses you would have claimed to have done those jobs too.

Have some dignity, will you.

And your sweeping statement about 'wage cuts in nearly every kind of job' is nonsense too.

I work in the private sector and I've been the grateful beneficiary of two pay rises in the last 18 months. Yes, there's a pay freeze in many areas of the public sector, which is unfortunate but probably necessary, but most people in this country are employed in the private sector and there is by no means a pay freeze in most areas.

Income Data Services show that the typical pay rise for the whole economy between Feb and April this year was 2.8%. When the public sector pay freeze is factored out, this demonstrates that pay rises in the private sector are clearly more than 3%. Not a king's ransom, but certainly not a pay cut.

Please don't make sweeping generalisations when a simple bit of research will prove them quite wrong.”

“@BCFCfinker/@BS3yellow
Yes i do know what im talking about as i spent a good many years doing both of these jobs which had its many rewards and wasnt paid like they are today .So i can talk about it and know what i talking about.”

“@BCFCfinker
well thats where you are wrong my friend i have done both of these jobs in my lifetime and wasnt paid that well then as they are today,but i enjoyed them both and it had its rewards.so i do know what im taking about thanks.”

“@lolly60

I think you exaggerate (much like unions do, you're just on the other end of the political spectrum)

People aren't getting pay rises (this is not a pay cut - this is not to say that some aren't but they will be in the minority) and effectively (taking inflation into account) that is equivalent to a pay cut.

The union rumour is, the NHS trusts want to cut staff wages but I have not seen any real evidence of this yet. If there is an intention to actually cut wages, then nurses need advance notice so that they can put plans into place i.e. alter their budgets.

Now as to your attack on nurses (my perception), like teaching and other thankless jobs, they do rather important jobs. Most do go into the profession with their eyes open and know they wont get shed loads of money. However, most of us couldn't do their jobs as we wouldn't be able to put up with cr*p that goes with it on the wages they are paid. Assault, abuse and a myriad of other incidents that no one should be exposed too. Most will take it in their stride. I'm not expecting you to understand because by the looks of it, you know no one in the profession otherwise you'd have not come out with such foolish comment. The day that you can do this job, the day I'll take notice of what you've got to say.”

“So hands up who voted for poorly paid, over worked nurses? Makes the campaign slogan "We'll cut the deficit, not the NHS" sound even more hollow. I doubt Labour would be any better though.

@Lolly60, it's that kind of mentality that ensures we'll all compete in a race to the bottom. Shame on you and your lazy, blinkered view.”