'Majority want to stay in European Union'

“Don't be so sure that the poll is flawed guys. As some posters in this thread demonstrate; the British public are not the sharpest tools in the box.

The politicians can easily trick them should this ever go to a vote. Google the "Chewbacca Defense" and you will get the idea.

The pro-Europe brigade will turn the bull-excrement dial up to 10 and try to scaremonger the suckers with crazy talk of leaving the EU being bad for trade and leading to job losses. Expect the BBC and most of the political establishment to be pushing that one really hard.

Of course it is up to the rest of us to repeatedly reassure the "plebs" that leaving the EU does not in any way exclude us from being a part of a free trade zone.

The British public need to be reminded that the Germans and French love selling us cars and would not be too keen on a trade war with tariffs being thrown up left, right and centre.

Indeed the only jobs at threat would be those EU gravy train jobs destined for worthless blood sucking leeches like the leader of a certain political party who will no doubt have a very cushy number coming his way when he gets booted out at the next election.

The other issue I expect to see pushed will be that of EU grants and how they will be withdrawn once we leave. Expect the BBC to send reporters out to show us a project that came about thanks to EU grants...whilst failing to mentioned that those "grants" were merely some of our own money being handed back minus hefty admin costs.”

“Whenever I hear the results of a survey or a poll my first question is to ask on whose behalf it was carried out.

The way survey or poll questions are worded influences results significantly.

When I saw the Post headline I assumed immediately that there had been a poll or survey by or on behalf of a pro-European group. I was not wrong even if the group in this case appears to be one man.

Apart from someone conducting a survey for something they have a strong bias towards, how scientific was it?”

“Unfortunately this 'survey' is of no value at all. Firstly it has been carried out by... Graham Watson, one of the most pro-EU People in Britain and someone who considers himself a potential president of the European Parliament I believe.

You can read his summary (including the questions) here:
http://tinyurl.com/cfvde97

The biggest problem is this: "I sent out thousands of surveys over the summer of 2012 asking residents of the South West about Europe and related issues."
Like most people, if I saw something from the Lib Dems (or any political party actually) arriving through my letterbox it would go straight into the recylcing. Hence the people most likely to respond to this are Lib Dems supporters... who generally are more inclined to be pro-EU.

There doesn't appear to be any kind of break-down of the respondents to ensure that they are properly representative, nor even an indication of how many people replied.

This is pure spin and the Post should have torn it to shreds.”

“Do we still have Euro MP,s riding that gravy train?

I thought we'd abolished Euro MPs because they did **** all and cost a fortune?”

“Don't believe a word of it.Most of Britain want to leave the EU.The South West is no different.”

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If anyone is wondering why there are repeat comments on this site then the following 'pop up' may provide an answer.

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“The EU has many things going for it but there are also parts of it that I consider to be deleterious to the UK.

Foremost is the way in which EU Human Rights legislation has been foisted upon the UK which means that terrorists and other undesireables can cause the UK government to waste millions of pounds as they make endless attempts to evade justice.

Secondly, the way in which illegal immigrants enter the EU and gravitate towards the, seemingly, softer laws of the UK only for the authorities to allow them to enter and effectively go free as the same Human Rights legislation is cited as the reason why they can't be kept in detention.

The UK has always been on the fringe of Europe, the Romans tried, and succeeded in having a pan Europe empire and the French had been trying it for years culminating with Napoleon whilst the Germans attempted it in the 20th Century. Ironically both the French and the Germans succeeded by peaceful means over the subsequent years.

Don't misunderstand me, I have personally benefited from the easing of travel restrictions as a result of the EU as has my German wife, we can now go through the same customs channels, but as others have commented there does need to be changes.

The UK is no longer a first rate player on the international scene, despite what our polititions believe or how they act, it is a pimple on the backside of Europe and too small to go it alone and I am afraid that it must stay in the EU.”

“Well said PPusher. I would count myself in that majority also. The EU is a good thing and needs to be more integrated. Unfortunately a 1/3 of people can't accept that, maybe they need to learn the actual facts rather than looking at the hysteria style news reports, but I guess that's just too hard for some people.”

“Well said PPusher. I would count myself in that majority also. The EU is a good thing and needs to be more integrated. Unfortunately a 1/3 of people can't accept that, maybe they need to learn the actual facts rather than looking at the hysteria style news reports, but I guess that's just too hard for some people.”

“I suggest that we contact our MEP for the South West (who the hell is he?) and ask the questions raised by Lone_Ranger. http://tinyurl.com/d6rg7lb Of course he wants Britan to stay in the EU - if we opt to leave he is effectively out of a job!”