Letters: Stop this dangerous experiment in Portishead

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009
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The trial to turn off the Cabstand traffic lights in Portishead is reckless and dangerous.

Cllr Ap Rees assumes that there will be co-operation between the motorist and pedestrian on a junction involving four different streams of traffic.

In particular, the right-hand turn from the end of the High Street into Wyndham Way, with traffic approaching in the opposite direction from the bottom of the Cabstand, and traffic turning left and right from Wyndham Way towards the High Street and the Cabstand.

It is indeed a recipe for further disaster and is in keeping with the way in which North Somerset Council has dealt with this issue since its inception. Prior to any work on this junction, we had within our grasp a perfectly sensible solution – do nothing, after all that's what North Somerset Council is usually prone to do in Portishead.

I fear for the safety of the car drivers, cyclists and pedestrians in this 'trial' and it is clear that North Somerset Council will be deemed negligent in creating this chaos. My only hope is that there is not a serious accident as a result of the council's stupidity.

Stop this nonsense.

Withdraw from the "trial" and start behaving with responsibility on matters concerning Portishead – instead of using Portishead as a poor relation to Weston-super-Mare.

Andy Hamblin, Portishead.

● I AM writing to give my whole-hearted support for the trial switching off of the Portishead Cabstand lights.

I am a local business owner where since the introduction of the lights my business has suffered. Deliveries take longer because of the extra long wait, the High Street is filled with smoke and pollution not to mention the noise.

Also, safety seems not to be an argument as the number of times motorists go through red lights, because they have been waiting so long, seems to create risk not reduce it.

Time and again we hear the same small majority of voices who state there unhappiness at the trial switch-off on safety grounds. A business owner on the high states it is unsafe because his wife cannot take a short-cut through stationary traffic on her mobility scooter.

Despite there being two crossings on the High Street for this lady to cross, the logic and selfishness behind this argument I find unbelievable.

Unlike any other issue I can remember, there has never been such overwhelming public opinion against these lights and the problems they cause. Two well-turned out public marches, the support of local MPs, and internet polls all in favour of switching off.

My only problem with the trial decision is hearing the trial can be pulled at any time. Why? This gives rise to the chance the tiny minority not in favour to ruin/spoil create problems.

Let's support the vast majority and welcome the best news in Portishead for years for years – switch off the lights forever!

Chris Delgado,

Local business owner and resident.

● WHEN is an experiment not an experiment? Surely the whole purpose of an experiment is to create the best conditions for good outcome and then, depending upon the result, declare the experiment a success or failure.

In the case of Cabstand, one must question if this experiment is well intentioned or if it is a stunt designed to fail. It is patently obvious that just bagging the signal heads is a safety nightmare – leading to the experiment being abandoned and the signals restored, just what the council would wish to save any expenditure.

On the plans of the proposals, the crossing of Wyndham Way to the petrol station is barriered off. Just where do the engineers think people will cross? Via the grassed area?

Can I suggest that people visit the North Somerset website and examine the "exemption report" for the Cabstand experiment? In this report, an officer of the council has examined the detail of the experimental scheme (actually he seems to have relied on past knowledge and photographs, as he had no plan on which to base his findings) and has made some sensible suggestions as to how to address safety issues arising from the changes.

Each and every suggestion is rebutted with a stock phrase that "the junction will be observed during the trial and in the event of user behaviour that is considered an unacceptable risk either additional measures will be put in place or the trial will be abandoned."

Now I wonder if the council has a stock of "additional measures" or whether abandonment is the easy and cheapest option. I would urge the good residents of Portishead to take extra care during the experiment so that it can be declared a success and perhaps with a few changes the town can have a junction that works for all.

M Jacobs, Portishead.

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    by Richard Miller, Portishead

    Tuesday, October 13 2009, 4:10PM

    “As a lifelong resident of Portishead I feel justified in commenting on the "traffic light experiment". I have a business in centre of the High St which I go to and from several times a day. Since the lights have been turned off, it has been a pleasure once more not to have to wait to join the endless queues of cars we were seeing for most of the working day. No longer do I try to avoid the Cabstand by using Slade Rd, where I am sure the residents have noticed the traffic has declined. The pollution in the High St has obviously been reduced, customers have commented how much easier it is to cross the road and as a driver, I must congratulate the many many motorists who have negotiated the junctions with the utmost care and on several occasions waved me out (with a smile) even when, although at present no car has right of way, I considered they did. I often walk to Waitrose, thus experiencing the "experiment" from a pedestrians point of view. Again I must say "what a pleasure", I have had no difficulty in crossing any road, often made even easier by motorists inviting me to cross when I would have been happy to have waited another five seconds for them to pass by.
    There is no doubt that this trial has been an unmitigated success and I wonder when the person or persons who thought-up the original system will put up their hands and admit that a few representatives of the nanny state, got it horribly, expensively wrong. Paint some white lines to assist the motorist, take the lights away and allow the traffic to continue to flow.

    Richard Miller”

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    by Paul, Portishead

    Friday, October 09 2009, 1:34PM

    “I think that generally the experiment has been very successful. The only times when I have thought it could have been bad is when someone approaches the junction and is adament that it is their right of way and has just gone regardless. If people filter in turn then it is good. I think all that is missing is a few raised zebra crossings for pedestrians - this will ultimately slow everyone down..”

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    by Annette Hennessy, Portishead

    Saturday, September 19 2009, 12:15PM

    “Where is your evidence Stan that "nearly every person in Portishead has shown they do not want these lights"? You sound like David Jolley!

    Personally, I feel this experiment which has seen some dangerous near misses, is at least indicating that as mentioned at the beginning of this saga by residents, there are ways to ensure queues can be eased with minor alterations. However, as a taxpayer I would not be happy with a complete overhaul of the current system to roundabouts to satisfy the electoral promises of a few Conservative councillors, at considerable expense, when other more economical options are available. Some money may be available now for adjustments to the system but certainly not enough to pay for a complete change without our road budget being adversely affected. We do not want any more potholes/insufficient road infrastructure due to inadequate road and transport funds.”

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    by Jonathan, Portishead

    Tuesday, September 15 2009, 6:53PM

    “Any safety problems with the switch+off at the moment are down to a lack of temporary junction markings and give+way signs. it may take a few days for drivers to adjust to the system but so far there has been a total absence of the kinds of queues that typified the the problem.

    The pedestrian crossings need to be reinstated, if not as pedestrian+activated traffic lights then as level crossings, and the 20mph kept as permanent.”

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    by Stan Hunwell, Portishead

    Tuesday, September 15 2009, 4:42PM

    “I want to express my opinion that the cabstand lights have to go. I can tolerate the endless waiting for the lights to change but the pollution in the high stret when i take my grandaughter to the shops is terrible. Why are we even having a debate - Nearly every person in Portishead has shown they do not want these lights - i agree with comment that i think nth somerset council has set this up to fail as they will pull plug when anything happens which it will without a crossing. Do it properly get rid of the lights forever.”

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