“What we need, is some sort of global financial meltdown which will kick people into rethinking the crazy amount of money that they plough into their cars each year. We should also get Rob F promoted because I agree with everything he says.

Another viewpoint though, How about we see the solidly organised 'PARK N RIDE' schemes before you start charging decent hardworking voters. You only have to go and sit by St James Barton Roundabout at 4:55pm to see humanity nearing it's worst as a thousand communters do battle to get home 30 seconds earlier than that bloke in the ford focus. Give us a decent out of town secure car-park with shuttle runs to the triangle every 10 minutes and we'll talk.

All the major 'out of town' train stations have laughable parking. WHY!?!? Buy some land City Council, give yourself planning permission and watch the problem solve itself.”

“I have a flat in Clifton, Bristol and need to park on the street. I work in London and rent a small flat in Kensington and Chelsea. I pay for a residents parking permit in K&C and it works very well for the residents. It works 7 days a week and until late at night. The plus point is that you can park anywhere within the K&C district and this is the success of this scheme. Other schemes restricting parking to park in do not work as well. Its all been done before and the Bristol council don't need to apply any thinking. Bristol councilors look at this scheme please- it's tried and tested and works, Why try to restrict residents and make more work for everyone. Yes and I pay for a permit in K&C but can always park! There are parking meters (not many) provided for short term visits. Keep it simple and cheap but I do fear the Not Invented Here syndrome within the Bristol council and they will try to make it expensive and complicated and it will not work.”

“Konwsley: the joker I met had a spiral-bound reporter-style notepad. I am very sceptical whether all the negative comments will be returned to the Council. It's all too easy for a few pages to fall out or be lost, then hey-presto the Council get a report that 85% of people consulted are in favour. Why didn't they have proper forms?

Surprisingly there will apparently be a massive increase in the park+ride scheme with something like 6 extra areas on the outskirts/approach to the city to cope with commuters, but this wasn't mentioned in the propasal leaflet or map. If that's be implemented then why the need to harrass 50,000 inner city residents?

My point is it's not democracy when they Council as a while pushes something. Let's get the councillors justify it ward-by-ward when it's election time and each community can decide the solution it wants.

The joker said it would take MONTHS to do admin for each zone of a few streets anyway!”

“Barry, quite capable of taking care of myself, if it needs to be dog eat dog so be it, what I'm not having are the self-styled liberals who have their 'Say No' posters up like they're fighting on behalf of the people but are actually out for number one like the rest of us. Want to be the big community activist, but couldn't give a damn about the community - if you read any of my remarks that has been my dispute. It's hypocritical and it
is patronising.

As per usual like so many on here you resort to garbage like 'were you bullied at school': it really shows you up like any of the other inadequates on here who are more obssessed with trying to get under the skin as you can't stick to the argument. If that's not the case why make such a provocative remark?

I use train and bus every week but I can't rely on them, in your remarks you obviously don't or you would know the costs and the problems involved.”

“Rob F, if you work in another city then why don't you take the train? Living in Southville you can't be too far from the station? Or buy/rent a house with a garage? It sounds to me like you're the one that's selfish and can't see it from another resident's perspective. We're not communists - we need to take care of ourselves and not rely on local government to cusion us. Grow up. Were you bullied at school?!”

“Also Steve, I fully understand the issue of family visits, I don't pretend to have a solution and there needs to be one, for it to work, I appreciate it is not fair to exclude family like this. But as for tradesman and so forth, again we have had three skips in one street at the same time this summer, which is asking for difficulty, likewise often the tradesman themselves leave vans and trucks overnight. It is all contributing to impossible parking in the evening and the residents right to park just one car must take priority in some way. I want to find a solution, not see an opportunity shouted down by divisive campaigning. Just to add one final thought, as parking gets worse, more have to park illegaly on North Street, where others already park illegally next to turnings in and out of side-streets. There WILL be an accident because of this, pedestrians and cars can't see in and out of streets. I'd rather pay £40 and not have that on mine or anyone elses conscience.”

“Steve - so the answer should be to encourage the scheme but put across a workable basis for it. All of this 'say no' nonsense is simply shutting the door on ideas that would solve a worsening problem and I'm not convinced a lot of people who support 'say no' care besides protecting their selfishness. Something has to give when a resident can park two or three cars and another a few doors away pays council tax and road tax but hasn't got a place to park. I know that the cost is an issue but how else do you promote consideration and fairness? I'm glad you see it as an overnight thing as well. Last night a car was parked to deliberately take up 2 spaces and when the partner returned, they moved to fit both cars - in spite of other residents having driven past repeatedly, unable to park. And this couple had a 'Say No To Residents Parking Scheme' poster, I wonder why! These type of people are part of the problem and won't be a part of the solution. It's selfish and it's solving nothing.”

“Rob F, I live in Southville and I and most of my neighbours run one car. Commuters are rarely a problem as they're gone by the time that most of us who work away get home. I'm sure you've experienced this as well. However, what we really object to is the proposed scheme which will operate 24/7 365 days a year and for those who out of necessity have to run 2 cars, will cost up to £200 - before they start increasing it - which they will.
Also, we're not happy that Bristol City Council dictates how many visitors/tradesmen/medical personnel etc we're allowed to have each year - and the fact that we've got to pay for them. My sister who lives out of town pops around regularly with her kids to play with mine - that will have to be greatly reduced. I'm not standing for BCC dictating my life when they've miserably failed to provide a decent public transport system which is part of the problem in the first place. The proposal as it exists is unnacceptable.”

“My objection is not commuters so calm down, I couldn't care less about Clifton the problem in the south of the City (where there has been a lot of campaigning) is overnight parking, caused by residents themselves being selfish.

THESE are the people who are campaigning so visibly for their right to continue parking 2 or 3 cars so others who have been at work until late cannot even park near their own home at the end of a day. THAT is the fraud I am exposing. They're not your comrades, they're FULL of it.

And why don't I cycle - I work in a different City and it's already a
10-12 hour day. Is that okay? I took the bus for 3 years but it was impossible to sustain. Happy? Honestly the attitude of some of you keyboard warriors amazes me.”

“James in Redland - Democracy in action is exactly what this is - a consultation going out to 50,000 households. Looking at parking problems area by area is exactly what this is about. Who was this 'joker' to you refer? At the end of the day there are 30,000 people that make up the council.”