Many of the green sites were not seen by Bristol City Council before sale plan

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MANY of the green spaces under threat of sale by Bristol City Council were not visited beforehand to see how well they were used, it has been revealed.

Bristol City Council wants to sell up to 62 green areas in a bid to fund improvements in up to 200 more.

The plan was originally supposed to only target "low-value" sites, but residents have expressed concerns about how a number of the sites could have been targeted despite claims they are well used.

According to documents partly obtained under the Freedom on Information Act, just one out of 30 of the sites were surveyed to discover the level of use.

The council has produced "value assessments" on the threatened sites, one-page summaries of the research staff carried out in the run up to this summer's public consultation.

The Evening Post has seen the assessments for 30 of the 62 sites, but according to these documents a site visit to assess use by the public was carried out at just one location.

And even though officers who went to Okebourne Road Park acknowledged it was well used, the council still wants to sell off part of it for up to 49 houses.

Two other sites were visited according to the assessments but only by council play officers to see if Napier Square park and Cook Street open space in Avonmouth were suitable for children's play equipment.

Friends of Okebourne member Alison Devonshire obtained seven of the assessments under the Act.

They were Okebourne Road; Brentry Hill; Elderberry Walk; Embleton Road; Fonthill Park; Tranmere Avenue; and Trymside open space.

Mrs Devonshire also asked the council to provide the times and dates of any visits carried out to see how well the parks were used.

The response from the officer in charge of the green spaces project Richard Fletcher said: "In most cases, the council did not carry out specific site visits to determine how well each park was used.

"The council did trial a survey method on some spaces early in the process but didn't feel that the information being returned was of sufficient scientific value. Instead, the council adopted a three-pronged approach.

"We consulted internally with officers that have many years of knowledge of maintaining and managing our parks and dealing with public inquiries. We have actively sought feedback through our stakeholder consultation process with communities as part of work to develop area green space plan ideas and options papers.

"The public consultation results will be used to help determine levels and types and uses."

The Post has repeatedly asked the council to say exactly how many "most" is, but no answer has been provided.

The Post has also asked if "most" also applies to all 62 sites, and why the council did not determine levels of use before putting the plan together, but no answers have been provided.

Mrs Devonshire told the Post she thought the council had not carried out enough research on the sites.

She said: "They've not done a full assessment.

"They've left it to officers or parks people, but a lot of parks work is done by contractors, and who are they?

"There's a lot of misinformation in the value assessments. They said there was a covenant on one, then they backtracked.

"I think they're just trying to railroad this through. We've got no faith in them whatsoever."

A final list of the sites under threat is due to be released next month.

The green spaces plan has attracted a record number of responses during the consultation process this year and council officers are collating the results.

The council argues the plan is necessary to address decades of low investment in Bristol's parks, and has promised any site that is not sold off will be protected from development for 20 years.

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    by Henbury resident, Henbury

    Sunday, November 21 2010, 7:45AM

    “Civil unrest doesnt need large numbers, just good planning and law abiding action can be very effective, take Henbury for instance. This time of year the Mall traffic will be very heavy, and a lot of it goes through Henbury, There are several sets of pedestrian crossings on the Cribbs Causeway duel carriageway. Some guy in Somerset proved that by continually using the crossing the traffic backs up, and with the level of Mall traffic that would lead to total grid lock. Lots of people? no just a few determined individuals. This is a law abiding activity!”

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    by Bob, outer Bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 8:45PM

    “All around Bristol there are suburbs around Bristol that are disenfranchised by this event, but look to Bristol as their City Centre.
    Local elections in Bristol and in fact the councils that surround Bristol are usually fought out by the three main parties, They throw in a few local issues, but stick to the national line.
    I for one have discovered you need local people who have the sense to support the whole of Greater Bristol and their local constituencies where possible.. . I am one of the very few who bother to vote in local elections. Until now, along the same lines as the National Elections.
    I, and i suspect a few more thoroughly regret our actions.We need to get more independant candidates who will stick to their principles and vote with their conscious.Regretably the turnout at local elections are so low, that we get the councils we deserve.”

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    by geoff, bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 7:51PM

    “they got what they want now,so whatever you say it does matter.the people voted them now they pay the price for the lib dems in power.nice one”

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    by Chris, Bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 6:58PM

    “:-(, southville - what is more depressing is the dumb comments by the likes of Mark, gerry, and Paul Cook: sad examples of the end result of the modern day indoctrination process known as the 'education system'. No wonder the country's in the mess that it is. God help us all.”

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    by :-(, southville

    Friday, November 19 2010, 5:30PM

    “I cannot believe that a council can sell off vital green spaces in the city. Financial gain is short term, the next generations won't benefit.

    This is so depressing. It seems to be knee jerk reaction by stupid people swept in under the current theme of austerity.”

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    by Mark, Bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 5:25PM

    “No ideas then ??

    Nope, thought not.

    Tell you what; you had better leave the Councils experts to it after all.”

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    by gerry, bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 5:17PM

    “Who owns the large areas of waste land alongside the bristol to bath cycle track, these areas are covered in brambles etc cannot the council sell off these areas instead of our parks.”

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    by Paul Cooke, England

    Friday, November 19 2010, 4:56PM

    “The answer is more land to build on
    so do away with the green belt, let them build on any land they own so we all get more & cheaper houses and the council can keep their parks as no one will want them”

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    by Chris, Bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 4:41PM

    “David, Living in the bus lane
    I agree with every word you say.

    The solution? First to stop voting for ANY of the crooks of the Lib-Lab-Con alliance. They are ALL puppets controlled by the same string pullers; the agenda remains the same regardless of which of these three bunches of charlatans and political wide-boys you vote for.

    Civil unrest is fine if you have numbers, but too many are glued to reality TV to know what's happening in the real world - there's irony for you.

    Perhaps lawful rebellion is the answer? Check out www.lawfulrebellion.org/”

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    by Mike, Bristol

    Friday, November 19 2010, 3:25PM

    “Mark

    I've got one!

    Council dissolve and allow people who really care to review all available cost savings (council lunches look like they have eaten well) then replace with common sense caring individuals not pompous disconnected old dinosaurs...”

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