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Fees introduced on boules court and speedway track in Filton

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Wednesday, March 28, 2012
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AN emergency meeting of Filton Town Council has been held to discuss controversial charges for its boules court and cycle speedway track.

A row had erupted because the council was increasing charges for other sports facilities by five per cent but not for the little-used boules court or cycle track.

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Some residents claimed it was unfair that there was a charging structure for other sports facilities, such as the tennis courts and football pitches but not for the two minority sports.

At the special finance meeting, held at the Pavilion in Elm Park last night, councillors voted to implement charges.

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Filton Leisure Centre manager Lisa Timbrell recommended the council charge at least £4.20 per person for two hours on the boules courts and charge £15.40 per hour for group bookings of the cycle speedway track.

It was the third time Ms Timbrell has recommended charges – when she first did so in February councillors rejected her proposed costings as too high and then at a subsequent meeting deemed new costings too low.

This caused confusion among residents, who claimed at an earlier meeting that the reason behind delaying a decision for a charging structure was due to some Labour councillors' interests in the two sports, including South Gloucestershire ward councillor for Filton, Roger Hutchinson.

They also claimed at the same meeting that the council was discriminating against football teams and other sports by charging for them to use its facilities.

But Mr Hutchinson, a former member of the town council, told the Post it was "ridiculous" for residents to think that his links to the cycle speedway club and boules club had any effect on the town council's charging structure.

"There are no charges for the boules court because it is a pub game and as far as I know no other pubs charge users to play this sport," he said at the time.

Mr Hutchinson, who is treasurer of Filton Cycle Speedway Club, added: "There is a charge for competitions at the cycle track, just as there is for football matches. To train on the track is currently free and any large charge that the council imposes would make it impossible for our club to continue. Anyone can use the track, and at the moment lots of kids use it to ride and run round – would they have to be charged too?"

The new charges mean that group bookings, including cycle speedway events, will be charged at £15.40 per hour, with all day bookings being charged at £123.20. Filton Cycle Speedway Club currently trains at the track for 28 two-hour sessions per year, and will be charged £7.70 per hour, totalling £431.20 for the year.

Ms Timbrell's report recommended that the public be charged £1.10 per hour's use, but she pointed out that this would need to be enforced in some way.

She also recommended that the boules court charges were in line with those for the tennis or five-a-side courts at £15.40 per hour, but that people pay per player.

It means that two players would be charged £4.20 each, four players charged £4 each and six players charged £3.80 each.

Dave Mikkelson, who lives in Ferndale Road, was one of the residents who felt that the council's reluctance to agree a pricing structure for the two sports was unfair.

After last night's meeting he told the Post: "I think Lisa Timbrell came up with a really good pricing structure.

"It was fair because it fits in with what is charged for other sports."

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  • Profile image for ASA_Watch

    by ASA_Watch

    Thursday, April 12 2012, 11:24AM

    “OK, so I am not local to you guys, and I am a petanque player, so that's my declaration of interest in this.

    Seems to me that the charges are exhorbitant and certainly not in line with the rest fo the centre where the charges are per court/pitch. Petanque is a game played most commonly in triples, i.e. 6 people play at a time, on an area approximately 1/8 of a tennis court of gravel to dust. The maintenance costs are almost nothing, the need for changing rooms and shower facilities are negligible and the time to play a game is from 45mins to 2 hours. At a cost of "at least" £4.20 per 2 hours it is going to cost players who want to practice in their triples prior to competing in events £25.20, and that is for 6 players using 1/8 of the space fo a tennis court. By comparison, 2 hours of doubles tennis would cost £14.10, take up 8 times as much space, have a much greater need of the changing rooms, showers and of course running costs for new nets, repairs to the fences etc. Don't get me started on the football side of things, showers, their own changing rooms in most centres, at least 22 people on the pitch, 2 hours booking time, need for regular maintenance of the grass/lines, drainage costs, specific age group provision, gender bias in spending of council monies, regular repairs to goal posts, and in my area the cost of pitch hire? £31 per game, or £51 with the changing rooms. For the pitch itself less than £1.50 per hour. Only for the players to go off dow totheir sponsoring pub afterwards spending little if any extra cash for refreshments. Now unlike the proposed petanque charges, if you go on the pitch outside of an official match for a practice with your mates you don't get charged, I imagine the Leisure centre is the same there, do they chase after people having a knockabout and demand payment? Or do they only charge for competitive matches?

    To me this is a terribly miscalculated money making exercise. Tennis, Badminton, Netball, Squash, Football, all of them are beign provided by the council, probably at a lower charge to the end user than can be found eslewhere as a public facility for the use of the community. Some of these sports require a level of fitness excluding the older generations, an age limitation excluding the younger generations, and are gender biased leaning to one or other gender. They will all have a higher costs to the council than petanque.

    Petanque on the other hand is age (7 and over at my club, with a large numebr of pensioners who get out th ehouse twice a week into the open air and this is their only outside activity) gender and to most extents diability neutral (it was actually created so that a guy who lost a foot could play) has low running costs, and most importantly in this calculation, is free to play in pretty much any location. Providing a public facility that costs more to use than private facilities is not what any council is there to do.

    I suggest that Councillor Teml, unless wishing to appear a hypocrite, lobbies for charges for the tennis courts to be raised to slightly higher than those charged at private clubs, along with every other facility. Either that or people need to get their head around the concept that public facilities are there to provide greater access to sports and leisure activiites, not to make money by charging more than the market rate for activities. I forsee a future where instead of petanque terrains there are rectangles of weeds with no one playing. Anyway that's a few thoughts for people to consider.”

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    by DanGleebles

    Thursday, March 29 2012, 12:28PM

    “Ray, you should have seen his face at the council meeting when councillor Rikki Teml told off Hutchinson for laughing at him from the public gallery, during debates and sniggering too. So unprofessional of a serving labour councillor who has fought with every breath in his body against charging for his two sports. I dont know why any other labour councillors associate themselves with his underhand tactics, they must be desparate.”

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    by RayTPayer

    Thursday, March 29 2012, 12:11PM

    “How lovely to see our two serving councillor friends, Chubb and Hutchinson enjoying a final free game of boules last night and spending so much money in the bar of the Ratepayers Arms opposite. Shameful that councillor Chubb voted against charging however was defeated by all other councillors.
    Just what will Filton council do when he and his team leave Filton as he stated, now that charges are to be introduced?
    Cllr Hutchinson has also been giving advise on how to avoid paying cycle track charges too on his website page. naughty councillor, anyone would think he breaks the rules! See link.
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    When will South Glos Labour suspend this councillor and ultimately remove him from the Labour party! He does nothing for the reputation of Labour or South Glos council constantly bringing them into disrepute!”

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    by clip9

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 5:03PM

    “Roger hutcinson”

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    by RayTPayer

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 12:04PM

    “Does this mean that the Ratepayers arms will now lose all those thristy boule playing drinkers? Oh no, this must mean the council going bankrupt!
    Time to put your hand in your pocket and pay up....”

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    by bernadette21

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 9:38AM

    “Well done to all, and a special thank you must go to conservative councillor Teml who was able to put Cllr Hutchinson in his place . At long last we have someone who is not afraid to stand up to Hutchinson and supports the residents not himself”

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    by Labourstitch

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 8:49AM

    “When will Hutchinson learn? Honestly, "lots of kids use the track for free" Its empty all the time councillor! You are disillusioned and happy to spout ill truths all the time to try and reinforce your master plan.
    After this latest performance, its surely time for you to resign from office as its clear you are against the people of Filton, which was clear by the constant smirking you did at residents and councillors at the meeting.
    Well done to councillor Teml for putting Hutchinson in his place as his disrespectful attitude, is a disgrace to the Labour party and people of Filton!”

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    by groovygems

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 8:36AM

    “now all thats left is to vote out hutchinson after such disgraceful behaviour.”

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    by Filtonion

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 8:35AM

    “A Victory for residents who wanted to see fair charging across the board. Many Thanks to councillors who applied common sense and the leisure centre manager for her persistence.

    It means now that any lording it up by councillors supporting either club, will come at a price, a fair price.

    To South Glos Labour councillor for Filton Mr Hutchinson, I would say this: For many years you have used your position to influence what you can for your clubs rather than fairness for filton taxpayers and now the game is up. Time would be better spent on the transport and planning issue for Filton, so they dont come as a shock....

    To Councillor Chubb, many were shocked at the fact that you were the only councillor to vote against the charging, when you have already expressed a personal interest in (boules).
    As you would have stood to gain financially by keeping boules free, it is in fact a prejudicial interest and you should not have voted according to the rules. Whoever is advising you, is giving bad advice. It was therefore unclear whether you were voting on behalf of residents (who wanted charges) or your self interest as you did not make it clear.

    Power to the People!”

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    by miketaylor62

    Wednesday, March 28 2012, 7:00AM

    “At Last !! As a footballer i am sick of seeing the groundsman working on the cycle track and the boules court ,yet they pay nothing .While the football pitches are left to rot .”

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