Facebook more dangerous than DNA database, says mother
The mother of a teenager whose killer was caught by DNA says people have more to fear from internet sites Facebook and Bebo than genetic databases.
Gill Smith spoke out after it was announced that the profiles of up to 850,000 innocent people held among 4.5 million on an official database are to be destroyed as a result of a European Court ruling.
Following the verdict that people's privacy rights could be breached, the Government will delete details of those cleared of crimes – or never charged – after six years, and in cases of serious violent or sexual offences, after 12 years.
Mrs Smith believes people have more to worry about the personal details readily available on social networking websites.
Under the current rules, anyone arrested for an offence has his or her genetic fingerprint stored for life, which police say helped them solve more than 17,000 crimes last year.
Mrs Smith, the mother of Louise Smith, who was killed as she walked home from a Christmas Eve party in Yate 13 years ago, says everyone's DNA should be recorded at birth.
The body of 18-year-old Louise was found more than a month after her disappearance, hidden in Barnhill Quarry in Chipping Sodbury.
Her killer, David Frost, was caught because of the DNA he left behind at the scene.
Gill Smith and her husband Robert received MBE awards in 2003 for their campaign for a DNA database.
Mrs Smith, of Chipping Sodbury, believes those who have nothing to hide shouldn't be concerned about having their profiles recorded – and says people should be more concerned about the personal information on the internet.
Referring to social networking sites such as Facebook and Bebo, she said: "If people are law abiding, it shouldn't worry them at all. I would be more concerned about what was on the internet than having my DNA profile held on file because there is so much information out there."
But Mrs Smith said she is not disappointed by the Government's plans to delete some of the profiles.
"What we campaigned for was taking DNA profiles with the permission of the individuals concerned," said Mrs Smith. "We believe that if a policeman knocked on your door and asked for DNA, most people would say 'yes, keep it'.
"It wouldn't worry me if my DNA was taken. If all the records were taken at birth, no one could complain they were being singled out.
"In Europe they are digging up the soldiers from the First World War and using DNA so relatives can find out where their loved ones are – it's not just for criminals. DNA profiling has other uses as well."
In reference to the ruling from the European Court of Human Rights, she added: "The quicker we get out of the EU the better. I disagree with the court decision and all this human rights nonsense – it goes too far sometimes."
Ministers have came under fire from civil liberties groups over the plans.
Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said the new proposals were disproportionate and could lead to abuses of the system.
She said: "These proposals are not quite two fingers to the European Court of Human Rights, but they come pretty close.
"They don't distinguish between people who are under suspicion, people who are wholly innocent and those who are guilty."
When police make an arrest, a mouth swab or blood sample is taken and used to extract a unique genetic identity.
The string of numbers is then stored on a database which detectives can search using hairs, skin or other genetic material found at crime scenes.
Created in 1995, the UK DNA database is now the largest in the world, holding more than five million profiles of people in this country.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said: "The DNA database plays a vital role... and will help ensure that a great many criminals are behind bars where they belong.
"These new proposals will ensure that the right people are on it, as well as considering where people should come off."













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by Michelle, Bristol
Monday, May 11 2009, 12:39PM
“Also for those of you who think DNA evidence is infallible think again!!
Clerical errors in DNA handling and interpretation have caused the innocents to be convicted of crimes.
In 1999, a sample taken from a burglary scene had matched to six loci on the DNA molecule of one of 700,000 persons in national database. The suspect had alibis and incapable to commit the crime and yet, he was wrongfully took in for imprisonment. The reasoning was that his DNA pattern would occur only once in 37 million individuals.
Despite the statistical calculation of 1 in 37 million on six loci, however it does NOT mean that the six loci cannot match more than one person in 37 million. According to population geneticists, it is indeed possible to have the six loci match in perhaps many dozens of individuals whose DNA is contained in a databank of 700,000.
Also At a July murder trial in Michigan, prosecutors acknowledged that a DNA test on evidence from 1969 matched someone who would have been 4 years old at the time of the slaying and couldn't possibly have been involved. Additional tests led to a second man, who was convicted. And to think that the Americans test on 13 loci and they still get things wrong!”
by Michelle, Bristol
Monday, May 11 2009, 12:29PM
“Simon, first of all to say that DNA would stop people committing crime is just wishful thinking. We now have been taking DNA for years, and yet we know that there are paedophiles committing the same crimes time after time, their DNA is on record and it doesn't stop them. I would like to reiterate that I am NOT AGAINST taking DNA off of guilty parties convicted of crimes but to keep that of innocents is ridiculous!!
And in the words of Benjamin Franklin
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"
Oh and as for your comment "if it was your family it would be different", there was a vicious assault on my Father years ago (no it wasn't murder but it almost was) and I still believe in what I say!!”
by simon, yate
Sunday, May 10 2009, 10:00AM
“i feel that if everybody gets DNA taken at birth that it wouldn't just bring the offender to justice to be punished at the taxpayers expence it would stop that person commiting the offence in the first place. because of the fear of being identified DNA and MICHELLE to sugest that someone would wrongly be suspected of a crime from "brushing up against someone" is pathetic. i cant help but think that it would be a different matter if it was your family affected by this story.”
by Michelle, Bristol
Saturday, May 09 2009, 11:31AM
“Why is it that the law abiding majority have to give up what little rights we have left for the criminal few. I have nothing to hide at all, completely clean record, no speeding tickets or even parking tickets, nothing but I refuse to allow mine or my children's DNA to be take unless on suspicion of a crime such as assault, rape or murder and if it the comes to nothing it should be removed. There is no reason what so ever to have this data stored when we know that it will never be 100% secure and I would be totally uncomfortable knowing that people had that sort of data about my children!! Our justice system is always right as well isn't it! I also agree that DNA on its own isn't valid evidence, it is so easy to brush against some one in a busy environment and have that transfer to any crime they would go onto commit.
I feel for the Smith family I really do, I wouldn't wish what they went through on anybody, but a general database isn't the answer.”
by rob, Bristol
Friday, May 08 2009, 8:07PM
“To be honest, even though i have nothing to hide from the police or government, i do not want my dna hidden in some database only to be found on a train somewhere.
Its been saud many times beore about this kind of argument, 1984 people ;)”