Don't knock our flats down, they're all safe, say Bristol residents

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RESIDENTS campaigning to save homes earmarked for demolition as part of plans to regenerate Knowle West say councillors have been making decisions based on false statements.

Members of the Knowle West Residents' Planning Group say they have obtained official council documents stating that properties in Torpoint Road and Kingswear Road are structurally sound and can be refurbished, rather than demolished.

The council plans to knock down 74 flats in the area, owned by the council and Knightstone Housing Association, after finding they had "inherent structural defects".

But the group says that three condition reports compiled by council officials in 1999, 2004 and 2007 state that the flats are safe.

The reports, among other documents, were put before councillors in March, and the council's cabinet approved a £1-million scheme to demolish the flats.

Following the discovery the residents say the material was either "shoddily treated" or "deliberately deceiving".

Among the documents obtained by the group through the Freedom of Information Act is a third condition report, entitled: "Kingswear and Torpoint report for costs and evaluation", from July 2007.

At the top of the report it states: "It is apparent that the structure of the blocks is satisfactory and requires no significant structural or remedial works".

Former councillor Jim White, an architect who has worked in construction for 40 years, runs his own property renovation and building company and was on the council's planning committee for ten years, examined the reports.

He said he feared "financial, social and environmental mistakes" would be made through the demolition.

In a letter to the council's cabinet, he said: "The three condition surveys all make it quite clear that these buildings are basically structurally sound, and while needing vital repairs and upgrading, they are quite capable of being saved. Many of the faults are no more than you would expect in any building of this age that has been poorly maintained."

Mr White calculated that the loss to the public purse through demolition of the 74 flats would be between £3.5 million and £4 million, with another £300,000 for demolition costs.

He said: "Demolishing these buildings is a lazy idea that seems to display a lack of understanding of the finances of property development and a very cavalier attitude towards public money."

The discovery of the misleading reports has infuriated residents in Knowle West.

Reverend Alister Palmer, chairman of the Knowle West Residents' Planning Group, said: "We had some inkling that the flats were structurally sound, so we asked for reports as we wanted to check for ourselves.

"We discovered, lo and behold, that they were OK. Either the officers have not treated the material correctly or they were deliberately deceiving.

"We don't dispute there are difficulties with the flats, but they can be overcome with refurbishment.

"It is open to question as to what the intention was, but it was either shoddy work or an intention to deceive the councillors."

Mr White's wife Anne, also a former councillor who was on the board of campaign group Knowle West Against Drugs, is a trustee of Filwood playing fields, and is on the board of the Knowle West health association, said the flats should be repaired.

She said: "They are structurally sound, they can be renovated to a high standard and that is cheaper than the cost of demolition.

"People in Knowle West have been told over the years they are not structurally sound, but it is not true."

Council spokeswoman Kate Hartas said: "Redeveloping Kingswear and Torpoint is the solution agreed, after extensive public consultation, to address significant problems and regenerate the area.

"The immediate area is in the highest one per cent in the country for crime and anti-social behaviour, and Knightstone Housing Association has said it is the most difficult site to let in Bristol, taking three times longer than other locations.

"The flats cannot be used for social housing because they are not disabled accessible and because they cannot meet the Government's Decent Homes Standard.

"The design of the flats is defective, leading to significant problems such as leaking roofs and cracking walls, and the flats would be very expensive to maintain, whatever was spent on refurbishment.

"The council's view, having explored all the options in some detail, is that demolition is the best solution."

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    by Son of Span, Knowle

    Thursday, November 04 2010, 5:17PM

    “Knowle West Residents' Planning Group

    What a bunch of comedians that group is! I don't trust a word that comes out of their collective mouths.
    As for them calling them a 'Planning Group'...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAAHHAHHAHA

    That's a line that beats even the best Billy Connelly material!”

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    by Chris, Bristol, England

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 5:47PM

    “What absolute rubbish Albert !
    Knowle West is a sound community ,this council love breaking up long established areas of Bristol
    LEAVE THE PEOPLE ALONE
    I lived in Knowle West in the 70's and still visit friends regularly, OK a few are not Perfect but the REST ARE SOUND HARD WORKING PEOPLE ! WITH SOUL and always with a Helping Hand
    Can you be so sure about Easton you cant be much of a Bristolian to make a remark like that !”

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    by Norman Stanley Fletcher, HMP SLADE

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 12:18PM

    “Albert i`d feel safer in Knowle than Easton!!
    And theres less decent people in Easton than in this Nick!!
    i` m staying in here with my pc and my plasma!!
    so long taxpayers!!”

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    by Laura, Knowle West

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 12:14PM

    “Did all the people unhappy with the proposals bother to go to one of the drop-in sessions to discuss the FIVE options currently being considered for the redevelopment, and to vote for what they wanted? Or are they just listening to biased opinion of the Residents' Planning Group? I went along to find out about all the suggested plans, and the reasons for demolishing certain properties were explained clearly. I personally voted for the options that required demolition as these made the most logical sense when taking the whole scheme into account. That said, whether any of it actually happens is another story!!”

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    by Rob (aka Roger Smith), Knowle

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 12:04PM

    “Leave my bedsit alone.. It might be a little damp and there's no electricity. But it's my home...”

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    by Gary, Bristol

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 11:15AM

    “Again, these people are happy to continue living as they are. The Council should not spend any more time and money on them. Use the money elsewhere in Bristol where it will be more appreciated.”

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    by Albert, Easton

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 11:05AM

    “While the buildings may be sound, I dispute the fact that they are safe. Nowhere in Knowle West is safe for decent people.”

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    by paps, nimy

    Wednesday, November 03 2010, 9:36AM

    “about 10 years ago a friend of mine and her family lived there, I was told there was a problem with crumbling asbestos.

    asbestos is ok if left undisturbed but if it is crumbling then certainly a problem that needs dealing with.”

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