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Doctors being 'held to ransom' over asylum seekers

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Tuesday, May 22, 2012
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A ROW has broken out between GPs and a Bristol law firm over treatment of failed asylum seekers.

The clash comes after city-based lawyers Deighton Pierce Glynn warned GP practices that refused to register asylum seekers that they faced legal action.

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    Chris Skidmore

One leading city doctor said involving lawyers in the process was "the wrong way of doing things" and called for common sense to be applied instead. And a Tory MP has accused the firm of "holding doctors to ransom" and plans to raise the matter in Parliament today.

Kingswood MP Chris Skidmore has been campaigning on the issue of NHS treatment of foreigners, claiming North Bristol NHS Trust alone has written off £1.7 million in unpaid bills for hospital treatment in recent years.

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He has written to Deighton Pierce Glynn, based on Colston Avenue, telling them he is "deeply concerned" about their actions.

Mr Skidmore said: "Lawyers should not be dictating to the NHS."

He insisted GPs were allowed to choose who they register and said his argument was "morally right".

Mr Skidmore added: "It is wrong for GPs to be held to ransom by lawyers when it is clear that the NHS and our healthcare services should not be allowed to be abused. Our healthcare system may be free, but that does not mean it can be a free-for-all."

But Mr Skidmore's arguments were dismissed by Adam Hundt, a partner at Deighton Pierce Glynn.

Mr Hundt said: "He has got the wrong end of the stick if he thinks we are trying to change the law. We are trying to apply the law as it is.

"Nobody is excluded from GP treatment. It is very clear. Hospital treatment is different.

"People come to us when they have been refused registration with a GP.

"There is nothing in the law that permits them to do that. Refusing them isn't lawful."

Mr Hundt, whose company specialises in cases of people being denied medical treatment, added: "GPs aren't legal experts – we are."

As well as failed asylum seekers, other overseas residents can cause confusion, said Dr Tom Frewin, Bristol spokesman for the British Medical Association.

Dr Frewin, of Clifton Village Practice, said that although the issue did not affect his own practice it was relevant to areas of Bristol with a high concentration of asylum seekers.

He said it was essential to ascertain whether a patient was entitled to NHS treatment in this country, where they lived, and whether the treatment was urgent or routine.

Dr Frewin said: "With asylum seekers, it's about whether they are entitled to NHS services or not. It can be complex. In theory, you ought to know the regulations of every country. If you have a lot of foreign people living in an area, it makes it difficult to figure out who's entitled and who's not."

Asked about lawyers getting involved, he said: "It's not a very welcome intervention. It's the wrong way of doing things, and I am afraid that often they get it wrong."

Dr Frewin said he had never turned away anyone living in the area who had been entitled to NHS care.

He said: "You can't just say 'I don't like your face, I won't register you'.

"That would be actionable."

Mr Hundt said the cost of the NHS treating foreign nationals was "pretty minuscule" compared to its total budget.

But Mr Skidmore, who puts the total known cost across the country at £60 million, said this was just the tip of the iceberg. He believes it is impossible for hospitals to recover the costs for treating all foreign patients, and believes the law should be changed to restrict free treatment to those paying taxes in this country.

He said: "It is being abused on every level. There is a limited amount of money in the NHS, and it can't be a free-for-all."

MP's were due to debate the issue in Westminster Hall this morning.

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  • Profile image for shaun1964

    by shaun1964

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 2:32PM

    “asylum seekers please all go back to your countries,we have thought on behalf of you in iraq afganistan etc war is over go home. what is up with this goverment they are a drain on our resources time to send them back to there familys before they all arrive as well.”

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    by Dave_Sense

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 1:47PM

    “'Failed Asylum'? They should be on the next plane home the minute they're turned down, instead of having hot and cold running benefits bestowed upon them. Anyone that has the balls to put that in an election manifesto could start choosing the carpets in Number 10 now.”

  • Profile image for bristol_guy

    by bristol_guy

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 12:01PM

    “As always, the only people winning here are the lawyers. I love this country.”

  • Profile image for arealbristol

    by arealbristol

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 11:45AM

    “City of sanctuary - has cost of £1.7 million in unpaid bills.

    I would say use lawyers to take their assets to get the bill paid. As the government would for me.
    Then again, they are living in taxpayer funded housing, using taxpayer funded schools, claiming taxpayer funded benefits.”

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    by nogbutt

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 11:12AM

    “we could definitely do away with a lot of lawyers, and not suffer. the uk has 1.75 per 1000 people (magee) whereas the germans have 1.34 and the french somehow have it down to 0.64. this isn't to mention the (admittedly more law abiding) japanese who are on 0.16. we aren't as bad as peripheral europe, israel or the usa though, but there's still fat that could be cut.

    if lawyers were really there for the public good, they would be trying to consume as few resources as possible. instead they just seem to exist to make even more work for themselves.”

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    by winford

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 11:11AM

    “Charity begins at home and therefore we should treat people who have contributed to the NHS or who live here legally. We should not treat immigrants if they are not registered at a doctors. We are such an 'easy touch' country. Look after our own first - to get an appointment with a doctor now a days is a hard job so why should un registered, illegal people go first.”

  • Profile image for arealbristol

    by arealbristol

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 10:59AM

    “£1.7 million in unpaid bills. Time to stop healthcare tourism now.”

  • Profile image for Bristoldjsuk

    by Bristoldjsuk

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 10:50AM

    “What is a little weird about this article, is that it doesn't mention the fact that the NHS does charge for Non EU citizens to use it's service. The main issue is NHS tourists coming over here quite legally, using the service to have children etc then going back again. The illegal immigrant issue is a drop in the ocean compared to that abuse of the system.”

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    by flattop72

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 10:49AM

    “And from whom will Deighton Peirce Glynn seek a fee for this act of rightiousness? From it's clients? Probably not. More likely the NHS when it enevitably looses the case, further adding to it's financial burden, or the tax payer.

    Lawyers, aren't they great?”

  • Profile image for Cider_Dog

    by Cider_Dog

    Tuesday, May 22 2012, 10:42AM

    “Lawyers - generally profit from anything that pays up quickly, regardless of whether its morally justifiable or not.

    Asylum Seekers - generally will take ANYTHING they can get their hands on for FREE.

    Lawyers + Asylum seekers / human rights = A Win Win £££££.

    Oh and by the way, who pays the lovely ££££s?

    We, the taxpayer of course.”

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