Cleesed to meet you
In a rare interview, John Cleese tells David Clensy about
his plans to return to Clifton College; reveals he’s writing a
new comedy reminiscent of Fawlty Towers; and predicts that
‘Barack Obama will transform the world’
When you're due to interview John Cleese over the telephone,
it's difficult not to imagine him on the other end of the line
standing behind the reception desk at Fawlty Towers.
Beyond all reasonable logic, I half expect him to answer in
Basil's trademark stressed-out state, while Sybil, Manuel and
the Major get up to some slapstick capers in the
background.
In fact, it couldn't have been further from the truth. When
he comes on the line, the godfather of silly walks; the nemesis
of Norwegian Blue parrots; the leader of the People's Front Of
Judea, sounds surprisingly reserved – thoughtful and
intelligent.
You know immediately when somebody's brain is working on a
much higher intellect than your own – you can almost hear the
whirring.
He answers questions without pausing for thought, skipping
gleefully between subjects. If you don't get your next question
in quickly, he'll come up with one for you, after bridging the
pause with a relaxed: “Now, let's see, what else can I tell
you?”
With a career that's spanned the story of modern comedy,
from working with The Two Ronnies on The Frost Report, through
the Monty Python years, to the immaculately written Fawlty
Towers, John has come a long way since his school days at
Clifton College.
But the Weston-super-Mare-born star is returning to his alma
mater later this month, giving a series of intimate “evening
with” style performances at the school's Redgrave Theatre to
raise money for the neighbouring Bristol Zoo.
“When I was a schoolboy at Clifton College, we were so close
to the zoo that I could hear the animals all day,” he says.
“It was the gibbons mostly, they were whooping all the
time,” – he breaks to give me an impromptu impersonation of a
gibbon.
“But I could also hear the lions and the tigers roaring. I
loved it. I would often go and wander around the zoo. My
favourite animal was a lemur, who was in a cage near the main
entrance. I just took to him – he was such a playful little
thing. And I've loved lemurs ever since. That's why I've done
work for Save The Lemurs over the years, and made TV
documentaries about them. In fact, when I'm on stage in
Clifton, I'll be joined by Colin the Lemur, whom I met last
year when I last visited the zoo. Nice little chap.”
There are plenty of stories in circulation about Cleese's
time at Clifton – most famously that he marked-out footsteps in
the snow making it appear that Field Marshall Earl Haig had
left his stoney steed in the night for a visit to the little
boys' room.
“I've heard that story, too, but sadly it wasn't me,” he
says, dashing the school's foremost urban legend.
“In fact, that story was doing the rounds when I was at
Clifton College. Although in those days it was supposed to be
some other Old Boy who'd done it. These stories just keep going
round and round, and they're always attributed to the last
famous person that was there,” he laughs.
“I've heard another one about me putting an old Morris
Oxford on the roof of one of the school buildings. Again, not a
shred of truth in it, sadly.”
He may not have wreaked the sort of havoc you would have
wished for from a future Python, but John has fond memories of
his time at the school.
“I had a very happy time there,” he says. “It was a friendly
school.
“My only criticism is that the teaching then wasn't
stimulating enough for me.
“I used to get the most enjoyment from the particular
teachers who had a habit of going off on a limb and talking
about life in general rather than their specific subject.
“I learned a lot from them, but not much from the normal
lessons.
“But then, I also found that at Cambridge. I think I do need
a lot of intellectual stimulation to be happy.”
This is a trait that has reflected in his career. Never one
to rest on his laurels, he's always moved on from successful
projects before they had chance to wane.
He left Python before the fourth TV series, and called it a
day on Fawlty Towers after just 12 episodes.
“True,” he says. “I was the first to leave the Python team,
after the third series, because I was ready to try something
new.
“And when people found out I was writing a sitcom with my
first wife Connie Booth about a hotel in Torquay, they thought
I was mad – 'why's he writing with his wife?' they'd say. But
we did OK with Fawlty Towers, I think.”
John, who has divorced recently from his third wife, the
American psychotherapist Alyce Faye Eichelberger, is currently
trying his hand at writing with a close relative again – this
time it's his daughter Camilla.
“I'm writing a film script with Camilla,” he reveals. “It is
a comedy set in an old folks' home. No doubt people will say
there's a hint of Fawlty Towers in it. But to be honest, no
matter what I wrote, people would say there's a hint of Fawlty
Towers in there somewhere.
“ I could play Mary Queen of Scots and somebody would say
there's a touch of Basil Fawlty there.”
Apart from the lemurs documentary, John has steered clear of
television since Fawlty Towers.
But for the past four years, he has also been pioneering a
new form of entertainment – performing at his ranch in
California in podcasts for his website, with viewers charged $1
per downloaded episode.
Fed up with television executives and studios, John set up
the website in 2004 as a vehicle for his humour and personal
philosophy. “It's like having a tiny TV station,” he says.
It's the kind of technophile behaviour of which another of
his most famous incarnations would be proud.
John briefly took on the role of Q in the Bond movies during
the Pierce Brosnan years, following the death of Desmond
Llewellyn. “Desmond was a fascinating man,” he says. “I'd
worked alongside him, playing his deputy in The World Is Not
Enough.
“He'd been a prisoner of war, but he had great respect for
the Germans. I used to love listening to his stories.”
By 2002, when it came to filming Die Another Day, the Bond
world had lost the veteran actor, and John was happy to step
into the iconic MI6 quartermaster role.
“I enjoyed being in the Bond movies, though of course, I
only did two of them,” he says. “Unfortunately, when they moved
over to Daniel Craig, the producers decided to take the element
of humour out of Bond, so Q went. That was a real shame, I
think, but they've done it because the films make most of their
money in the Far East now, and our Asian friends just don't
really get the humour. They just want to see the action
sequences. In my view, they go on for far too long now.”
But over the past 30 years, John has shown he feels quite at
home among the Hollywood glitterati, producing hit movies like
A Fish Called Wanda. He's lived in Santa Barbara for almost a
decade.
“I love California,” he says. “I've lived out there since
1999. I grew up in Weston-super-Mare, which was a very middle
class, protestant, repressed little town in those days. Going
to America helped me to shake off that repression.
“Though people used to tell me I was more like an American
anyway – given my interest in psychoanalysis, and having
married three American women.
“But the weather is fantastic, I'm able to be close to my
two daughters, and, of course, I'm not as well known out there
– which is very liberating for me.
“Although people are lovely to me in the UK, I'm so well
known here it can get a bit oppressive having everybody looking
at you as you walk down the street.”
And John is optimistic about the future of his adopted
country. He recently revealed his plans to pen speeches for
presidential hopeful Barack Obama exclusively in the Evening
Post's sister paper, the Western Daily Press.
“I think Obama is the brightest beacon of hope I've seen in
world politics in the last 30 years,” he tells me. “He'll win a
landslide. I think McCain will win three states at the most.
Barack Obama will transform the world. Bush has done nothing
but harm to America, and it's not just me sounding off – people
all over the world are saying this.
“I think Obama will be able to clear the slate for
America.
“I've not met Obama yet in person,” he adds. “His people
have asked me to meet him, but I think he's far too busy to
meet me at the moment – he'd only be able to offer me 90
seconds. What's the point of that?
“But I have made it known that I am more than happy to work
for him. That might be speechwriting, or simple
fundraising.
“In fact, I am organising a fund-raising event for the Obama
campaign in September, so that's one relatively straightforward
way I can help him.
“I'm excited about a future in which Obama is
president.”
John Cleese appears at the Redgrave Theatre on July 23, 24
and 25 in conversation with Chris Serle, in aid of Bristol
Zoo's conservation work.
There are two tiers of ticket on sale: tickets for the
theatre performance only priced at £50; or the special but
limited opportunity to attend the performance and an
after-show, private audience reception with John priced
£150.
For more information, visit the website at
www.bristolzoo.org.uk or call 0117 9747300













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