Bristol kids kicked off overloaded bus

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Two Bristol girls were turfed off a school bus because it was overcrowded – even though their parents had paid for their tickets.

Lauren Harrison, 12, and her friend, Rhiannon Beail, 11, were standing upstairs on the double decker when they were told by a bus driver to get off.

They were due to go home to Lawrence Weston after lessons at St Katherine's School in Pill.

Lauren, of Chapel Lane, said: "I felt really confused. I thought we were in trouble or something and the school wanted to talk to us.

"The bus driver was really rude.

"He was shouting at us, saying the bus wasn't moving until we got off."

The bus company says safety is paramount and they face heavy fines if they travel with too many pupils on board.

Lauren's parents, Simon and Becky Harrison, pay £3 a day in school bus fares for each of their three children.

Mr Harrison, 36, a pallet repairer and fork lift driver, said: "I think it's disgusting they were treated like this.

"They were not even given their tickets back.

"Lauren said she had paid the return fare but the bus driver just shrugged his shoulders."

Without their return tickets the two girls could not get on another bus.

When there is a problem pupils speak to the bus monitor – a teacher – but on this occasion the bus monitor was dealing with something else at that point and by the time the teacher was free all the buses had left.

Luckily, Mr Harrison was at home and came to collect the girls.

Mr Harrison said that when he complained to Eurotaxis Ltd, the firm which supplies bus travel at the school, he was told there was nothing they could do.

"These are young girls and you cannot expect them to walk so far home from school," said Mr Harrison.

"I'm a shift worker which meant that when they phoned home, I was available to go and get them."

He said some children were taken to school by their parents but caught the bus home which meant there were fewer seats in the afternoon.

Lauren said pupils often raced to get on a bus because there was never enough seats for them all.

She said four pupils often share two seats by sitting on top of each other.

Rhiannon's mum, Mrs Beail, 39, of Oakhanger Drive, said: "I'm pretty disgusted about it.

"I think the school should be trying to sort something out."

Tony Lavoie, business development manager of Eurotaxis, said there were more than 300 seats on the three double deckers the company uses for the school run and an average of 260 pupils use them each day.

He said: "We were very sorry to hear of the inconvenience caused to Lauren and Rhiannon. However, we take passenger safety very seriously.

"The law dictates that we may not overload any vehicle. The driver quite rightly asked the two passengers to leave the overloaded vehicle and to join another vehicle which was travelling the same route.

"Prior to the school buses leaving the school, the drivers ensured that all vehicles were not overloaded and that there were no children waiting to board buses.

"We cannot understand why these two children did not board one of the other buses. The three vehicles we operate have in excess of 300 seats with the average daily usage of 260 and therefore sufficient seats are available.

"When the vehicles leave the school, there is never overcrowding. However, once the vehicle is travelling, the driver has no control over children seat swapping."

The school's business manager Laurence Frewin said: "The school have been extremely concerned to learn of the problems experienced by students on their return journey home from school on Monday night.

"We have spoken to the operators of the public bus service, Eurotaxis, and have requested urgent action to ensure there is no recurrence of this situation, which is obviously unacceptable for any passengers let alone students."

It is not the first time parents have complained about the bus service to St Katherine's School.

In October last year three children from Lawrence Weston walked five miles to school because there was no room on the bus.

It took Becca Connor and Abigail and Tyler Johnston more than an hour before they were picked up by their head teacher Stephanie Quayle.

Hundreds of children from Bristol travel by bus to the North Somerset secondary school every day, paying £3 for a return ticket. Lawrence Weston and Shirehampton are some of the last stops on the route before the bus takes the motorway bridge over the river.

Eurotaxis was last year running five services to the school, but had to stop two of them because of restrictions placed on the operator by the traffic commissioner.

Traffic commissioner Sarah Bell refused the firm's appeal to be allowed to run more than 11 services at one time.

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    by Martin, Clifton

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 11:45PM

    “Why did the driver let them on in the first place, if the bus was overcrowded?

    The driver must know how many seats he has, and to let them on, and then kick them off display very more judgement.”

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    by john, here

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 8:59PM

    “well said Peter 'eat less, move more' leave the buses for the elderly.”

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    by Peter Carol, Waiting for the bus

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 6:18PM

    “What people are mising here is the true story: Fat children. If the other kids on the bus spent more time walking than on public transport, they'd be slimmer - making more room on the buses for everyone. Not to mention reducing the strain on Bristol's already overstretched public health service. When I was a lad We'd walk for miles for the privilege of a proper education.”

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    by A Bus driver, Bristol

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 4:40PM

    “until you have driven a bus with 80+ kids on board you do not understand the hastle, I have and believe me most of the people that complain about bus drivers would not last 5 minutes.
    I have been hit by footballs, had water bombs thrown in my direction, I even had someone who was following me one afternoon to say "do you know that kids upstairs are trying the throw seats out of the emergency exit.
    So if you get on my bus and behave, no problem, but why should I have to put up with your bad behaviour when trying to safely drive the bus.
    I see parents getting stressed out trying to control 2 noisy kids in the back of their car, so multiply that by 40 or 50 and then see what it's like.”

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    by bob, bristol

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 4:39PM

    “Vic, trying to get 260 roudy kids home on three bus's day after day is a nightmare believe me.”

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    by Amused, Avon

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 4:23PM

    “Re Vic

    You really dont have a clue do you?? No ones fault you say ??? when the kids ignored quote "responsible adults paid to do that" If you had taken the time to read, you would have noticed that it was sorted out.
    Yoy say Eurotaxis Managers and Traffic commissioners should get together to sort it out?? sort out the fact that 2 children were asked to use another vehicle parked in front ?? hahahah you really are clueless”

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    by Vic, Bristol

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 3:55PM

    “I can't believe how many people are standing here in judgement of no one in particular and just airing their prejudices about kids and bus drivers.

    The news story highlights the collective ineptitude of those responsible for transporting the kids to and from school. Yes, *responsible* adults who are *paid* to do that. It's not the kids' fault in any way.

    How hard is it to get the 260 kids home on three buses? The school staff, Eurotaxi managers and the Traffic Commissioner's office should get together and sort it out. To get it wrong previously and to still not have it sorted is inexcusable.

    So this is a story well worth printing. The media plays a vital role in exposing the uselessness of those in authority, as it puts real pressure on the Institutional Useless to sort it out.”

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    by In the Know, Bristol

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 3:47PM

    “I have read a lot of opinions about this "Non Story". These are the FACTS - Firstly the 2 children were not "turfed off" the bus as the BEP wrote, obviously dramatising with a view to making a story out of nothing. They were in fact asked to leave the vehicle AND to get on the vehicle in front. Threre were drivers and school staff there who would ensure they got a ride home, however THEY chose to ignore that and go back into school, hence no one knowing that they had not got on a bus. These are FACTS not opinions. I really do think this non story has anything to do with child behaviour,driver attitude, or anything else except for the fact that these children CHOSE TO IGNORE a drivers request, aimed at ensuring passenger safety . As simple as that”

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    by Jonathan, Montreal, QC

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 3:25PM

    “Granted that bus drivers have a bad reputation, but it's certainly better than the one that kids have. I have seen a lot worse behaviour from kids than bus drivers, that's for sure. And yes, i did get the bus twice a day for about 20 years, but i don't see children as often. For this reason, i think that it's fair that the majority of people side with the bus driver.

    As a seperate point, it's quite an achievement getting two spelling mistakes into someone's name. Is that why you simply call yourself 'R'?”

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    by R, Fishponds

    Thursday, May 21 2009, 3:18PM

    “Johnathon, I appreciate your point of view. But that was my point, people not knowing all the facts but jumping to the immediate conclusion that the kids were the ones in the wrong. And to be fair, a lot of Bristol bus drivers have just as bad a reputation as local children.”

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