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Campaigners want to designate Portishead Lake Grounds as town green

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Wednesday, February 13, 2013
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PORTISHEAD Lake Grounds could become a designated town green in a bid to protect it from development.

The Lake Grounds Residents Association has applied to North Somerset Council to register the beauty spot as a town green.

  1. The Lake Grounds in Portishead could be designated as a town green and protected from future development

    The Lake Grounds in Portishead could be designated as a town green and protected from future development

Those making an application have to prove local residents have used the land for at least 20 years for lawful sports and pastimes.

Association members issued a questionnaire asking people how long they had used the Lake Grounds. The application was submitted to North Somerset Council this week.

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A spokesman for the association said: "The aim of the application is to protect the character and visual appearance of the Lake Grounds as they are now. Our survey showed the vast majority of people are against any development of the Lake Grounds.

"We believe it is full already with lots of activities. We do not have a problem with these activities, but do not want any more."

The move comes at the same time as Portishead Town Council is being asked to reconsider its stance on whether a skate park should be built at the beauty spot. In the past the town council has backed plans by the Portishead Skate Project (PSP) for a skate park on a section of land between the children's play area and the boathouse.

PSP already has permission for a skate park, which it was granted at appeal, but the consent runs out in November this year.

However its plans hit a stumbling block after an application for landlord's consent to North Somerset Council, which owns the beauty spot, was refused. PSP has reapplied to North Somerset Council executive member for property, Councillor Tony Lake, for consent to use the land after searches for an alternative site for a skate park proved fruitless.

Mr Lake has now asked Portishead Town Council if it wishes to reconsider its previous decision to support a skate park at the Lake Grounds.

The town council in place before the 2011 elections voted to support the plans by PSP, but as the composition of the council has since changed, a fresh view on the matter is now being sought and is due to be discussed by councillors tonight.

If town green status is agreed, it could effectively veto any plans for a skate park at the site.

Councillor David Pasley, who represents the Lake Grounds, said: "The application for town green status is something which has been led by the residents who want to protect the Lake Grounds."

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    by PortisheadAH1

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 12:10PM

    “ps I do hope the Lake Grounds Ward Councillor, who recently objected (after the project had been finalised) to the Battery Point Bell funding, will similarly object to local authority funds being spent in a time of austerity measures on adminstration costs for the town green application and presumably any legal costs that may arise? Or perhaps the minority resident group under the name "Association" have agreed to foot the local authority costs as well as their own?

    Comment Red Arrowed Personally. Now those initials co-incidentally sum up the incorrect information in the public domain on this subject.”

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    by PortisheadAH1

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 10:56AM

    “The law around "Town Green Status" is complex but interesting. The following extract is quite pertinent tothe Lake Grounds in Portishead where a select "Association" of residents has excluded other residents in the lake grounds and adjacent roads, from not only participating in their "latest" survey because evidence shows they chose not to include them in the leaflet drop (the last survey of many incidentally where all previous outcomes were not as they desired),but many of the residents were also not included in previous surveys by the ward councillor who has recently given his support to this "Association" after many years of being the leading voice against the skatepark in his Ward. Tonight at town council evidence will be provided of all the previous surveys and the manner in which those surveys were undertaken. Some interesting quotes from the local authority will be included as well as correspondence from the authority to the local MP who became involved voicing opinion against the skatepark, despite the fact he did not know all the facts. The evidence and facts are clear. Voices cannot be censored tonight (although they can be curtailed by time). So sad that written material giving the facts has been censored in the last week leading up to the "Association's" meeting on Sunday.

    Town Green Extract

    "The legal test for the registration of greens, requiring a connection between the land and its use by a significant number of the local community, also demonstrates features of property
    law (we see this combining of public and private law features in the Whitstable
    beach inquiry - discussed further below - in which the potential frustration of the
    application to register the beach as a green by the use of the land by 'outsiders'
    showed a veering towards a private property-oriented approach, fostering an idea
    of exclusive ownership)".

    The small group of people within the "Association" seem to similarly be fostering an idea of exclusive rights to the Lake Grounds preventing other significant numbers from using the area as it was designated for. Community use. Community use in Portishead means ALL members of the community including our town's youth.

    The application they have submitted is unlikely to succeed because they are a minority group and their application ignores the needs of the significant community to use the Lake Grounds.
    If their town green application was to prevent commercial development, this probably would have succeeded. However, the fact this "Association" has submitted it to prevent a non commercial, free for all, open air wheels park for Portishead which would cater for the massive increase in youth population of the town, not only is indicative of the "Association's" wish to prevent a wheels park which already has planning permission, but demonstrates how applying for town green status is likely to rebound on the applicant because they are ignoring the needs of the wider local community.

    Incidentally, note to the reporter, in the interest of balanced reporting, why isn't there a quote from PSP or other residents who support the wheels park at the Lake Grounds?

    (I have pressed the red arrow as usual on this comment and if shortly it becomes unavailable to be viewed, then the "Association" will have succeeded in once again stilting discussion).”

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    by whippetprince

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 9:59AM

    “Judging by the photo it would be a better idea to flatten the lot and build on it.

    It's pretty ugly already.”

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    by Hillcran

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 9:05AM

    “garton, there has been no upkeep to the area. It has been neglected for a long while but obviously the short sightedness of these people couldn't or don't want to see that. It is a cynical ploy to prevent the skate park, nothing more, nothing less.”

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    by katachua

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 8:12AM

    “Just one more attempt by the Portishead gerontocracy to keep young people out of the Lake Grounds.”

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    by garton

    Wednesday, February 13 2013, 7:54AM

    “Residents? Who exactly were the 'residents', I live a short stroll from there and was never asked. Was it just those whose property overlook the lake grounds? I'm sure it's not just them paying for the upkeep and well being of the the area, just another cynicle ploy .....”

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