“Yes the social services really do target people with learning disabilities, it is sickening.

What they do is generally is disgusting and the "damned if we do, and damned if we don't" catchphrase is to cover incompetence - They are always "damned" as they often have everything ass upwards, and simply want their 'cake and eat it', it is like saying "Don't ever blame me, I'm perfect, I'm a social worker!"”

“Sigh....! Why on earth do I do this job? I'll tell you why; because children are the most precious assets we have and they deserve to be loved, protected and given every chance to lead a fullfilling life. It's a social worker's job to ensure that every child who is is in need of protection is afforded the same rights as any other human being because sometimes, they can't make their own views heard. That's why I do my job, because EVERY child matters.”

“One thing that is FACT is that social workers cant just 'remove' babies. They have to apply to court for an order, and it is the COURT who decide whether the baby is safe to remain with its parent(s) or not.

Low IQ will NOT be the only reason to remove this child. As already stated, there are thousands of parents with low IQ who raise their children.

The problem is, Social Workers are not able to speak up and explain the reasoning behind their decisions in public, so if the mother chooses to be 'selective' with what information she shares with the press there is nothing the social worker can do about it.

The fact people actually believe the facts of this case are this simple is very concerning.”

“I know very little about this case but I know more than anyone whose only source is the Evening Post report. Anyone who has read only that report should not comment on the case - they don't have enough information to do so and the information they do have is misleading.

Some journalism is good - it reveals things that vested interests try to hide or sheds light on issues that are more complicated than commonly thought. Some journalism is bad - it seeks only to sell papers and will mislead and even tell lies to do so. As someone on the margins of this case, I know that this report is bad journalism and that is worth commenting on.

It's also worth pointing out that the paper and even the journalist responsible probably know this is bad journalism but are more interested in the 'story' and it's circulation value than in the welfare of the baby.”

“John, its a bit unfair to say things like that when we only have one side of the story, the side that is from the family. The same extended family that are not allowed to have care of the baby.

We do not know the reasons, and we dont need to know, why.
That is for the family, the SS and the other departments that have a say in this.”

“This is another case of social workers taking control of things they know nothing about. The girl should at least had a chance of bringing up her child and see how she got on. These so called "family courts" know noting about families and exist just to make lawyers rich and do not care less about the child in question. At least the mother would be at home with the child and not just in a nursery like good "working mums". this case is a disgrace on social workers.”

“Mark.
So many flawed decisions for children made by the SS have and are being seen to be being made.
Serious errors that are ruining the lives of many children and families.
Even when what would be termed 'an insider' say a social worker, sees that flawed decisions are being made in an individual case, and they try to get the 'mistake' recognised, they often find themselves being bullied into silence!
To state that there are good checks and balances and that everything is OK because so many SS bodies are already in place to 'overlook' all child protection moves and procedures, would be to hold a false sense of security !”

“No, i disagree, there is no need for the public to know the ins and outs of this case.

The ins and outs are looked over by more than just the SS, it would have been more than one department that would have thought about taking the baby away.

If this is such a big mistake then she will get to keep the baby, but at the moment with her family being rejected care of the child, its safe to assume that they are taking the right course of action.

Yes mistakes do get made, as in all professions. However, that does not mean that the public needs to see everything that is going on.
The SS are a public service already, we already pay these people to do their jobs, who do you propose pays for an independant body to overview things?

Instead of adding another layer of heads to look at things, why not spend money looking at the issues that are really worth dealing with, like the lack staff within the public childcare system.”

“Mark. The poblem is that mistakes and flawed judgement calls made 'at the start' of any child protection case are not being enabled to be corrected.
As for your comment that if a mistake is made the baby can be returned to her mother....
The baby could, like many others, who have been taken away from parents, due to GROSS ERROR, may never be returned.
Parents who have had their children. ripped from them, in error, have to go through hell and high water to get their children back.
Some perfectly inocent parents never get their children back .
Some of the, wrongly taken, children have been put up for adoption.
Adoption of a child is final and the natural parents, even if they have had their children 'taken in error' have no rights to have their children back!
The story of The Webster's Children is worth reading.
The Websters are not alone!
The reasons why this mother, in this reported case is to have her child torn from her and then placed into the care of strangers must be opened to public 'overview' ! !”

“So the mother is deemed to not be capable and neither is her support network?

The baby deserves to be elsewhere then :]

This will not just be about IQ, however,after the recent "kidnapping" of her own daughter by a mother with a reportedly low IQ, IQ will be played as a card for media attention.

There is so much missing from this article to support the mother and family or the social services.

Having said that, the SS will have worked with a lot of people to come to the decision that they did, so I lean towards them to support.

Afterall, I would rather see a child being taken away and being returned to a parent (after a mistake) than a child be left with a parent who is incable of looking after it.”