“As far as I am concerned, when sexual activity takes place between consenting individuals they should be able to do pretty much (although within reason) whatever, whenever & wherever they want. - Steven, Bristol


Fantastic. Tell that to all the damaged kids out there. I'm sure they will agree!

You miss interpreted me when I said that kids need both parents to be responsible. I meant that both parents need to act in a responsible manner and provide a stable example not that both parents are needed to raise the child (although both should be involved)

And yes 13 might be young to have children but if you conceive a child you have an obligation to it - no matter what age you are. Whether you want to be grown up ort not there is no option. Oh wait! If you are a man there is. You can just walk away and leave the tax payer to fund your sprog and it's equally young mother (who incidently can't walk away and if she did would be hunted down and savaged) But according to you children having children is OK (I refer back to your comment above - note the use of consenting individuals NOT consenting adults!)

I advocate good sex education as well but I also advocate self respect not do want you want when you want with who you want. If teens aren't responsible enough to have kids then they aren't responsible enough to have sex. (kids develop emotionally a lot later than they do physically) There is too much pressure on kids to grow up and to give in to peer pressure what you advocate contributes to that. You seem to forget that there are emotional bonds formed between people as well as physical ones. and many adults (let alone kids find that difficult) Going back to the story however This adult male who is surely more mature than a hormonal teenage girl has taken advantage of a situation to serve his own peurpose. This girl obviously thinks she love him but how many of us REALLY want the same things now as we did at 15? this man used her immaturity against her to get what he wanted. This man has shown no respect or compassion towards either his partner or children. He has been completely selfish and if he has run away because he couldn't cope then he is a coward as well.

Is this an age thing? no. say what you like it has nothing to do with age. it is a man thing because men are now brought up to believe they can do what they like without
consequences.
Something, Steven you seem to be rather fond of suggesting”

“Hello Helen,

I'm extremely sorry if I have offended you, it certainly wasn't my intention, I do get carried away.

For the sake of you're, Jack's & Alyx's families I genuinely wish it never happened, and certainly never came to the attention of the press brining all this attention.

Although I do understand that by informing the press it probably would expiate the search for Alyx.

I'm fairly certain & I hope that both Jack and Alyx found and brought home very soon, although my thoughts are for concerned, I am troubled by the thought of the legal and social consequences jack will face for what is a silly mistake.

The reasons you started your family are your business not mine nor anyone else's.

I have not sought to judge nor blame you nor anyone else, I have never suggested that you personally are an unsuitable parent, I apologies if you are under that impression.

My opinions relating to teenagers and young adults generally not being emotionally or financially ready to be parents, are just that, they are my opinions.

Having read you comment, I realise now how insensitive it was for me to use your current situation as a source to air my views.

Yes I have been using the computer for most of today, its how a make a living, and yes I shouldn't get so drawn in to things, but the potential long-term fate of Jack and other young men like him is something I feel passionately about.

Thankfully I have never required any state aid, so no taxes from you or anyone else.

I will go to bed, and not comment again.


Again my deepest apologies for any unintentional distress or upset any of my comments have caused, & I hope that Alyx safely returns home very soon.

Best wishes,
Steven.”

“Steven,

Who are you to judge me!!! I am not in the wrong i started a family with aman who asked me to!! and guess what i am single through no wrong doing of my own and as a matter a fact i pay my bloody taxes ive been working and paying them since i was 16!!! ive never not worked other than going on maternity leave!!! When passing comments maybe you should think about all the people involved none of this is anyones fault other than them 2!!! Their parents are worried 2!!! Why dont you get a life your self and stop commenting on every ones elses you obviously sont work to be sat at home posting comments on here all day! so where my taxes going????
Thier are 2 innocent families involved here, and 3 worried families”

“@Teen mum1,

¿Really Steven? How dumb are you? ¿

Resulting to petty insults & making wild assumptions is poor substitute for rational debate on this serious issue.


As his eldest child with Helen is 2, and he is 22, he impregnated his partner when he was 19. Which in my opinion is far to young to be a parent, regardless of gender.

Even at his current age I would not consider him to be fully adult, and still to young to be a parent (again my point of view would be the same for a female).

Although this is not without exception, I have a friend who gave birth to her first son at the extremely young age of 16, the father has no part in her child's life, but with the help of her own parents she, she has done a wonderful job.


¿If you are grown up enough to create a life you are grown up enough to take responsibility for it.¿

Most boys aged 13 would be physically capable of fathering a child ¿create a life¿, they would be most certainly incapable of rearing their offspring.


¿Children need both parents to act in a grown up way.¿

I disagree, I believe a single parent of either gender can raise a child perfectly well.


¿If you can't stand the heat use a condom!¿

If, rather than assuming, you actually new my point of view on this subject, you would know that I am a very strong proponent of condom use, even in apparently committed relationship, to protect both partners from disease, prevent unnecessary pregnancy's & to avoid possible resulting abortions.

I also advocate full and comprehensive sex education for all children and the provision of free contraception to teenagers and other vulnerable groups.


¿But then what can you expect from a selfish society that says it's ok to sleep with whoever you like and not worry about the consequences. ¿

I believe that sex is no more moral than other bodily function, I've never heard anyone moralising about the urge to breathe.

As far as I am concerned, when sexual activity takes place between consenting individuals they should be able to do pretty much (although within reason) whatever, whenever & wherever they want.

If they play safe the likelihood of negative consequences are greatly reduced, and just because it is never totally without risk does not make it wrong; e.g. crossing the road, driving, flying ect.

¿family life is going to hell in a hand basket and attitudes like yours are at best ignorant and unhelpful!¿

Again with thewild assumptions, my point of view libertarian, very progressive and in favour of full equality. Just because it is different from yours does not make it ignorant and or unhelpful.”

“maybe they wanted to go away.there are old enough to make they own decision in life now”